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SlingPlayer with iPhone and iPod Touch

It's January 14th, and MacWorld 2008 begins tomorrow. What will Apple introduce during their keynote this year? New laptops? Upgraded Apple TV? New iPods? My hope is for a 3G iPhone. Apple is due to release the SDK for the iPhone to developers within the next 2 months. This could mean a version of SlingPlayer Mobile for the iPhone. Combine a SlingPlayer client and a 3G iPhone, and you probably have the most stunning remote video device available.

Current iPhone:

Both the current iPhone and iPod touch could theoretically be used as a remote SlingPlayer device. Both devices are very similar and have brilliant screens and intuitive UIs.

The current iPhone will certainly be a very usable SlingPlayer device once the SDK is released, and a client is developed. It is my opinion that SlingMedia will almost certainly develop an iPhone client once the SDK is available. The current generation device will work wonderfully as a Sling client on WiFi connections. I don't think you'd be able to beat the experience with any other portable device. If Apple provides a way to get video out of the iPhone via the dock cable, you could have a handheld player that hooks up to any TV! Way cool.

On AT&T's network, the current generation iPhone will be a little more problematic. The current phone uses the EDGE data transmission format. EDGE is limited to a maximum data rate of about 236 Kbps. Theoretically, EDGE could reach speeds as high as 473 Kbps if the operator allowed it to utilize all timeslots on a radio channel (highly unlikely.) Most users would probably see somewhere around 120 kbps to 200 kbps data rates. This is pushing the lower limit of acceptable speeds for SlingPlayer. Even though my Treo700W is an EVDO handset and should have speeds above 500 kbps, I regularly see speeds of around 175 kbps to 250 kbps; in that range, the image is relatively good on a small screen. So, if a user is in an area with a really good EDGE connection, the current generation iPhone should be able to Sling at an acceptable quality. So those of you who own current iPhones should be able to Sling without too many problems if you can accept slightly lower quality or frame rates.

Alternatively, there is a way that one could get a much faster and better mobile video experience from the iPhone. If you already have a USB or Express Card EVDO modem, you could very easily use a device like the CradlePoint PHS300 router to enhance your experience. The PHS300 is a slick little mobile router that features a USB port and built-in WiFi. It also has a LiOn battery providing about 2 to 3 hours of run time. Your USB EVDO modem plugs into the USB port (Express Card to USB adapters are available.) You'd make an EVDO connection with the CradlePoint

router and then connect your iPhone to the router via Wi-Fi. VIOLA! You now have 3G speeds with your first generation iPhone! For more information on the CradlePoint router, click here.

iPod Touch:

The iPod Touch could also be a great WiFi based SlingPlayer device. Apple has announced that the upcoming SDK will also allow developers to write programs for the iPod Touch. Will the device be capable as a SlingPlayer? I would certainly think so and pretty much the only thing that would prevent that if some functions in the SDK were disabled for the iPod Touch. We'll have to wait and see, but it's a compelling idea to be able to have all of your media - streaming media included on a single portable device. And since the iPod Touch uses WiFi for connectivity, the streaming speeds should be sufficient. And using a device like the CradlePoint router described above, you could effectively have mobile Slingbox access with your iPod Touch. If you love your present cell phone and don't want to get an iPhone but you do want an iPod and you do want to Sling while mobile, this is an excellent solution.

2nd Generation iPhone:

Whatever the second generation iPhone turns out to be, it will certainly be an outstanding SlingPlayer client device. Those of us who like to go portable with media and the Internet may finally have the "Swiss Army knife" we are looking for. A new phone is likely to have a larger amount of flash memory. My guess is that it will have at least 16 GB like the iPod Touch or perhaps even 32 GB. At these flash memory sizes, video storage on the device begins to get practical (8 gig is a little small for audio, pictures AND video.) And, the new iPhone is almost certain to be 3G (UMTS) capable. With the 3G chipsets, the iPhone will be able to have much higher datarates (if the phone supports HSDPA, users could typically expect to get up to 3.6 Mb/sec and potentially up to 14 Mb/sec.) This would make for an outstanding SlingPlayer experience.

Disadvantages of using the iPhone as a SlingPlayer, other than the current generation speed, aren't many. For me, getting an iPhone would mean consolidating devices. Right now, I have a Motorola SLVR that I use for voice, my Treo 700W is used primarly for data/e-mail and Slinging, and I have an iPod for music and recorded video. With a 3G iPhone with at least 16 GB of flash RAM, I could probably combine all 3 devices into 1. While that's good, there is a disadvantage. Right now, I can talk on the phone, Sling video, and listen to music all at the same time. With a single device, you can't do that. Still, I think the tradeoff would be worth it.

In conclusion:

For 2008, I am certain that we will at least see a beta release of SlingPlayer Mobile for the iPhone and iPod Touch. I think it will be one of the most eagerly awaited software packages for these devices, and will definitely be a hot piece of software. At some time during the year, we should see an announcement for a 3G iPhone - maybe not at Macworld, but perhaps later in the year. All in all, it should be an interesting year.

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January 14, 2008 5:26 PM

No SDK for the iPod Touch?? The iPhone and the iPod Touch have the same operating system and run the same software. Obviously the Touch lacks the phone hardware and Bluetooth, but otherwise the hardware is compatible (except the Touch has more flash and a little less battery).

I've got a Touch and can't wait for the iPhone/iPod Touch SDK and the SlingPlayer for both.

January 14, 2008 5:36 PM

Well, perhaps I have my wires crossed here. I did just re-read the press release at http://developer.apple.com/iphone/devcenter/third_party_apps.php and see that there is a PS at the bottom that states that the SDK will allow development of applications for the Touch. So maybe there will be a SlingPlayer client available for the Touch.

My bad.

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January 14, 2008 7:07 PM

OK, Article has been corrected and updated!  I really like the idea of using the iPod touch with the CradlePoint router...

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February 12, 2008 6:13 PM

A shiver came down my spine by just reading the title.

Is an iphone / ipod port official  ? 

Any reactions from the Slingmedia folks ? 

February 12, 2008 7:54 PM

There was a rumor a few weeks ago that Sling was among those companies that were given "early access" to the SDK.

The fact that there was no official acknowledgement of this rumor by Sling is, I think, a very good sign that it probably is true.

It would make a lot of sense for Apple to release a handful of new apps on the same day it officially releases the SDK. That way, they could say to the world, "Here's the SDK we promised, and here are a few already-finished applications that show some of the cool kinds of things you can develop with the SDK."

I can't wait to begin watching MLB games on my iPod touch!

February 12, 2008 8:31 PM

So, nice article NA9D.

To that, I got my iphone right here, his name is paul revere and he's just waiting for them slingers to make some SPM beer!

Or something like that.

About EDGE.  I historically have used MANY devices for SPM.  Including a DASH, which was only on the t-mobile EDGE network, not even the newer, better upgraded possibly double capacity AT&T EDGE network, and not the full blown possible half meg AT&T EDGE.  

What I have found with the iphone is the following.  It does better with the EDGE network than ANY other device I have used on an EDGE network.  I think it is the processor, memory and the graphics card.  There have been many tests abroad of EGDE (2.5G) vs. HSDPA (3G) and in things like web browsing, streaming video, etc there ISN'T really too much of a differance.  Downloading large emails, tethering, uploading files (although that is actually a much closer relationship in upload speed) there is a not a HUGE noticeable differance.  As with the current iphone, I think a well optimized application that takes full advantage of the HARDWARE platform, can do a pretty decent job.  If EDGE could pull 250kps down, with an optimized hardware device I think it would be just as good as my TREO 700wx, or Mogul on Sprints EVDO.  

February 13, 2008 9:05 AM

SlingMedia has made no official comment (AFAIK) about SPM for the iPhone. I know several people at Sling have stated personal opinions that they would like to see such a product. I would say the chances are going to be pretty good they'll have one. Will it be released when the SDK is released? I doubt it. The rumors on the internet also state that the first gen EDGE based iPhones will be able to be upgraded to 3G with a software release. I can absolutely, positively state that this is 100% false. The hardware is completely different. I sell for one of the companies that makes an integral part of the iPhone's wireless capabilities. The EDGE device they sell into the iPhone right now will not at all work with 3G waveforms.

Bottom line: Don't believe everything you read on the internet! :)

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February 13, 2008 9:16 AM

YEah, that upgradeable this is an urban myth.  The chipset in my understanding is completly differant.  IT MIGHT be upgradeable to take advantage of any upgraded EDGE network, but certainly not the HSDPA that AT&T uses for 3G

February 15, 2008 3:02 PM

Where do I sign up for the IPOD Touch Beta???

February 15, 2008 3:47 PM

A beta program is unknown as of yet, but there are places here on SlingCommunity that tell you were you can sign up for beta programs. Check out Sharon Rylander's blog. I think she mentions somewhere how you can sign up for various programs.

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February 15, 2008 4:46 PM

I can help you get signed up for the beta.

Just send me your ipod touch or iphone and credit card number, and I'll get things going!

Tongue out

April 24, 2008 3:19 PM

I must admit, I'm jealous of my buddies who already have iPhones, but I refuse to part with my Treo 650 until the iPhone can Sling.  I won't have a PDA/phone that cannot run SlingPlayer.

June 9, 2008 4:00 PM

Well with iphone 3G released and SDK released when can we expect a version of slingplayer?

June 9, 2008 4:47 PM

nathanbradin said:

Well with iphone 3G released and SDK released when can we expect a version of slingplayer?


Well, did you see the news article here on SlingCommunity? http://www.slingcommunity.com/blog/entry/28718/SlingPlayer-Mobile-for-iPhone-...

It's coming but slowly. Apparently Sling is not in the developer pool yet and so nothing can be officially released. This is still way in Alpha phase.

Also, my understanding is that they demoed a version today at the Starbucks across from the Moscone center. But it works on WiFI only at this point.

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June 9, 2008 7:17 PM

OK. Did you READ the link I gave or the top item on SlingCommunity News Blog? READ the link I posted above.

THE SOFTWARE IS NOT AVAILABLE! It was demoed and is PRE-ALPHA! The software will NOT be released until the time when Sling is added as an iPhone developer. The phone does not officially work on iPhones but only on jail broken iPhones at this time. Sling won't release it until they can officially support the iPhone.

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June 9, 2008 8:00 PM

Unfortunately, the sad truth about pre-alpha software is that it can be a long, long time between the time it is first shown and the time it is officially released.

Remember the whole Mac OSX Slingplayer fiasco? It was first shown in January 2006 and Sling said it would be available by early spring. Spring came and went. So did summer. And autumn.

Yes, we finally got the OSX client, but it was a loooong wait.

Here's hoping the iPhone Slingplayer will be in our hands a bit quicker!

June 9, 2008 8:06 PM

Well, the facts are that if SlingMedia is not accepted as an iPhone developer, there will not be an iPhone client. Hopefully, they will get accepted. I think they will. But it's still going to be a long time before there's a client. But I would say we'd be lucky if a beta occurred by Q4 of this year...

Slinging with a Slingbox Pro, a Slingbox Solo and a Slingbox Classic. 3 Replay TV units, a Roku HD1000 Photobridge and a Roku M2000 Soundbridge, an AppleTV, a Vudu, and digital cable. www.na9d.net

September 10, 2008 9:07 PM

Any update? Q4 is coming fast! Thanks!

September 10, 2008 9:16 PM

Donald1425 said:

Any update? Q4 is coming fast! Thanks!


I said we'd be lucky if a beta happened in Q4. :-)

Lucky means like a roll the dice and bet on getting snake eyes.

I wouldn't take the word of an Apple and Sling fanatic to be anything but pure speculation. :-)

I want it too - trust me. It's the one iPhone application that is like keeping my life from being complete. OK, I need Fring to be released to iPhone 2.0 but it's still a distant second behind SlingPlayer!

Slinging with a Slingbox Pro, a Slingbox Solo and a Slingbox Classic. 3 Replay TV units, a Roku HD1000 Photobridge and a Roku M2000 Soundbridge, an AppleTV, a Vudu, and digital cable. www.na9d.net

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