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SlingPlayer for Windows 2.0 Public Beta - Unwrapped and Reviewed


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Believe it or not, it's been almost two years since Sling Media released SlingPlayer for PC 1.4 - their last 'significant' upgrade to the software that Slingers rely on to watch their home television on a computer screen anywhere in the world. Interestingly enough, the last major upgrade happened even before a Mac compatible SlingPlayer was available.

Sure, we've seen a few updates to SlingPlayer here and there since then, but these were mainly maintenance updates, remote control upgrades, and firmware fixes. Don't get me wrong, these are always welcome. However, as an avid Slinger, I've been waiting to sink my teeth into the meaty new features of SlingPlayer 2.0 ever since I got a sneak peak at it back at CES. Suffice it to say, it's been a long, grueling wait.

The wait is finally over... SlingPlayer 2.0 is here... at least in Public Beta form. Will it exceed your wildest expectations? Does it live up to the months and months of hype? Will it blend?

The Core of SlingPlayer

SlingPlayer for Windows 2.0 Public Beta is, on the surface, not entirely different than the SlingPlayer of yore. Yet, when you first start using it, it will feel strangely foreign. Nearly everything in SlingPlayer has been given the royal treatment. Sling Media's "slickness" department (I made that up, by the way) has gone a little crazy; this software is tight... like OS X tight. It sports fading effects, sliding windows, videos and demos... the whole she-bang.

Absent in SlingPlayer 2.0, however, is the ability to change skins. If you're feeling retro, there's no longer a way to bring back the plain white design. The new style is similar to the "Red Line" design that was launched back when 1.4 was released, only minus the red. You better like gray, because that's all you get. It's disappointing to see the personalization of the player's look get axed, but since creating custom skins was nearly impossible, it doesn't look like anyone will miss it.

Particluarly interesting to the techno-geeks out there is the "Sling SDK" that is installed along with the player. Little is known about it, but an SDK could be a good stepping stone to third-party development. Of course, it could just as likely mean nothing. Stay tuned on this front.

The Cutting Room Floor

The ability to change skins isn't the only thing that got whacked for this release. Noticeably absent in SlingPlayer 2.0 is Clip+Sling, Sling's YouTube-like feature for cutting out clips of whatever you're watching and uploading it to a portal site to share with others. Sling Media showed a working demo of Clip+Sling back at CES in January, and expected to release it and the portal site with the SlingPlayer 2.0 launch.

Sling Media hasn't said exactly why Clip+Sling was pulled from the 2.0 launch, other than the reasons they've stated in the past - more development time is necessary to fully bake it, and business relationships with content providers are in progress. Either way, it looks like we'll have to suppress our clipping desires for just a bit longer.

New Features

Even with Clip+Sling's absence, there are enough major improvements and new features to make SlingPlayer 2.0 well worth the wait. The majority of these improvements all serve to enhance the user experience, eliminating many of the annoyances that made setting up and using Slingbox less enjoyable.

From Merlin to Secretary

Setting up the Slingbox and configuring remote viewing is typically the hardest step on the newbie's path to Slinging bliss; something that hasn't changed since the Slingbox debuted years ago. SlingPlayer 1.x offered a Setup Wizard to aid in the setup process. Apparently, the Wizard wasn't magical enough, so 2.0 has moved to a newly revamped "Setup Assistant" to take over the configuration duties.

For the most part, the new Setup Assistant should be easier to follow for the non-technical computer user. The advanced Slingbox user may be a touch annoyed by the Assistant, as many of the manual configuration options are difficult to locate or buried behind several ‘auto-magic' solutions. Typically I wouldn't complain about Sling trying to guide newbs down the easiest path first, but the Assistant seems to take much longer between mouse clicks to show you the next screen.

Sling Accounts

With the release of SlingPlayer 2.0, setting up a Sling Account actually becomes useful... not to mention required to add a Slingbox to the directory, which is a major change from the last version.

Creating a Sling Account requires an e-mail address and a password. While it may (at first) seem strange, this does actually provide two great benefits:

First, you no longer need your Finder ID to connect to your Slingbox from a remote computer, or any computer for that matter. The Slingbox directory is no longer built in the player, but instead to your Sling Account. When you sit down at any computer, just log in and your Slingbox directory will show up.

Second, Sling Accounts also houses your favorites, making them handy regardless of where you watch.

Program Guide

Out of all the improvements to SlingPlayer 2.0, the program guide ranks in my top two. When you set up your television source (cable, satellite, etc.) you'll be prompted for you zip code, then shown a list of television providers in your area. If program information from your provider is available, pressing the TV button in the right hand corner will slide out a channel guide that allows you to browse listings and show information for your channels. Clicking on a program will tune your device to the appropriate channel.

I know what you're thinking, "I already have a program guide in my TiVo/satellite box/cable box, etc. This doesn't really get me anything I don't already have."

True...and false. I agree the largest benefit comes to those who don't already have a guide with their video source, but the program guide built into SlingPlayer 2.0 is a much better alternative to navigating the guide in your device. For starters, it doesn't interrupt your viewing like most device guides do, so you can look for something else to watch without while still viewing your current program. It's also significantly faster to browse, allowing you to scroll up and down using your mouse than by pressing the buttons on your virtual remote and waiting for each press to be reflected on-screen.

My only gripe here is the inability to schedule SlingPlayer to tune to future shows. For now, you're given a "this program hasn't started yet" message if you double click on a future program.

Favorites work a little different in 2.0 since they're now built into the program guide. They're much easier to set up than before, and you can have multiple favorites lists instead of just one per source. Very cool.

60 Minute Live Buffer

Also new to SlingPlayer 2.0 is a 60 minute live buffer that gives you the DVR-like ability to pause and rewind live television, regardless of your source. DVR owners can already do this, but like the program guide, using the live buffer built into SlingPlayer 2.0 doesn't require button presses on your virtual remote, which can be difficult to time when you're fast forwarding and rewinding through live TV.

Using the live buffer is easy. In the bottom left hand corner of the player, you'll see the pause button. Give a click and the video will pause; click it again and the video resumes. You can navigate to any point in the buffer by moving the video position slider back and forth. If it only had seven second instant replay and thirty second skip keys...

As a nice touch, you can disable the live buffer in the SlingPlayer Options menu. Handy if you're on a computer low on disk space.

Before you try it

Below is an overview of the known issues with the SlingPlayer for Windows 2.0 PUBLIC BETA. Please read carefully before you decide on upgrading.

  • SlingPlayer for Windows 2.0 PUBLIC BETA may not work with some proxy servers

    If you need to enter proxy server settings manually, SlingPlayer may not be able to connect to a Slingbox outside of your local network.

  • Back up your Favorites before installing

    SlingPlayer for Windows 2.0 PUBLIC BETA has a completely new Favorites feature within the SlingPlayer Guide. If you need to go back to SlingPlayer for Windows 1.5 for any reason, your upgraded favorites list will be lost. We strongly recommend backing up your Favorites by exporting a copy prior to upgrading to SlingPlayer for Windows 2.0 PUBLIC BETA. Here's how.

  • Slingbox directory no longer syncs with SlingPlayer Mobile via ActiveSync

    If you installed SlingPlayer Mobile on a Windows Mobile Pocket PC or Windows Mobile Smartphone using the desktop installer, your Slingbox directory contents will no longer sync to your phone once you have install SlingPlayer for Windows 2.0 PUBLIC BETA.

 

Wrap Up

While that wraps up the major changes in SlingPlayer 2.0, there are tons of minor tweaks and enhancements around every corner. When you add it all up, there's a lot to love, and it's hard to complain when the product you bought years ago gets better for free.

Honestly, I can't say I'm that disappointed to see Clip+Sling absent. I'm excited about it and want to use it, but at the end of the day Clip+Sling doesn't fix anything that was fundamentally wrong with the Slingbox experience. The Live Buffer, Program Guide, Sling Accounts, etc. all make what was already a great experience even better. You may not be able to share clips from your favorite shows just yet, but you can sure watch and control your home TV with less hassle and more flexibility.

Sorry Mac fans, all the beta love is exclusive to Windows at the moment, but according to Sling they are "working on software for the Mac which will bring these features to the platform in a future update."



Give SlingPlayer for Windows 2.0 Public Beta a spin and share your thoughts.

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August 7, 2008 12:27 PM

This new player is SLICK. I love the guide that pops out; no longer to I have to worry about making favorite buttons, and I can see at a glance what's coming up. It's hard when you have the player docked on the left to see the Tivo guide due to the size; this makes it much easier to enjoy TV on my desktop in my home office. I have yet to try the beta on my laptop, but I expect a great experience there too.

The only feature I don't see is the widescreen mode. The anamorphic mode isn't too good, but I'm sure it will be polished.

I love the quick rewind. Trying to rewind over the internet was very hard and often jumped ahead before rewinding. This solves that issue.

Thanks Sling!

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August 7, 2008 1:15 PM

Don't forget Closed Captioning is now available.

This has been in my top 3 wishes for some time. Thanks Sling Media team!

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August 7, 2008 1:36 PM

Anamorphic or letterbox are your choices for widescreen viewing.

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August 7, 2008 1:43 PM

One other MAJOR difference between the old and new is the Play/Pause button is just that now - it is a play/pause button. Pressing the button while streaming does NOT stop the stream or disconnect you. It simply pauses the video. The box keeps streaming and filling the buffer. To disconnect, you have to manually go to the connection menu and disconnect the Slingbox. It's a bit of a paradigm shift and I wanted to point it out...

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August 7, 2008 2:36 PM

Vista Sidebar gadget?

Don't see any mention of it...

NigelS

August 7, 2008 3:31 PM updated: August 7, 2008 3:32 PM

Anyone know how much disc space the buffer takes?

I used to use the no frame skin. I was gonna be really mad since Skin support was removed....but since you've sort of incorporated the no-frame I'm happy.

August 7, 2008 3:31 PM

Can anyone tell me if you need admin rights to install this on win xp ?
I've got the old slingplayer on my work laptop (no admin rights) for when i travel and i don't want to try to upgrade if it is going to mess up my access to my slingbox

(i do know the issues / risks with running beta software and accept those - i just don't want to have to waste half a day going back through the IT department to get it reinstalled if i need admin rights)

Cheers
David

August 7, 2008 4:19 PM

DavidB said:

Can anyone tell me if you need admin rights to install this on win xp ?
I've got the old slingplayer on my work laptop (no admin rights) for when i travel and i don't want to try to upgrade if it is going to mess up my access to my slingbox


I do believe you need admin rights. I don't think anyone has successfully installed it to a stick drive yet. You may be able to but I think you'll lose features like the buffer.

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August 7, 2008 4:20 PM

I am very excited about the new Slingplayer 2.0. The setup was relatively easy but even as an early-adopter I paused to re-read a few questions.

The number 1 new feature for me is the program guide. Wow! It speeds things up a lot and it even uses the local time of my pc for displaying the guide times.

I have a dvr connected already but the pause feature is still pretty nice and easier than sending commands to my dvr. Although my slingplayer shows a 10 minute buffer, not 60 minutes. I don't see anything in the settings either. Hmmm.

Overall, I'm very pleased. One more great product from Sling!

August 7, 2008 4:33 PM

duckfootballfan100 said: .....Although my slingplayer shows a 10 minute buffer, not 60 minutes. I don't see anything in the settings either. Hmmm.
I've installed on my home pc (not laptop - see above..) and i've also just got a 10 minute buffer.

August 7, 2008 5:01 PM

DavidB said:

duckfootballfan100 said: .....Although my slingplayer shows a 10 minute buffer, not 60 minutes. I don't see anything in the settings either. Hmmm.
I've installed on my home pc (not laptop - see above..) and i've also just got a 10 minute buffer.


It will show 10 minutes until you reach the end of 10 minutes. Then it will increase to 60 minutes. Trust me on this! :)

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August 7, 2008 5:23 PM

Still a lack of new remote codes for the European market.

Still can't use the DVB radio channels starting at 700 upwards.

I hope both of these items are sorted.

August 7, 2008 6:12 PM

Still no support for different codes!

The previous version had support for my remote control with Code 80, and now 750 codes and i can't find my code!! rediculous! not even the same as last code which is 80, and most of the code are not installed, waist of time!

August 7, 2008 6:27 PM

Amanco said:

Still no support for different codes!

The previous version had support for my remote control with Code 80, and now 750 codes and i can't find my code!! rediculous! not even the same as last code which is 80, and most of the code are not installed, waist of time!


This is BETA code people. It's not finished product. Please send suggestions or issues to Sling or post them here. That's why it is called beta and not a final release. There are bugs in it that still have to be resolved. But Sling wants a larger number of eyes looking at things...This is valuable feedback.

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August 7, 2008 6:49 PM updated: August 7, 2008 6:57 PM

NA9D said:
Amanco said: Still no support for different codes! The previous version had support for my remote control with Code 80, and now 750 codes and i can't find my code!! rediculous! not even the same as last code which is 80, and most of the code are not installed, waist of time!
This is BETA code people. It's not finished product. Please send suggestions or issues to Sling or post them here. That's why it is called beta and not a final release. There are bugs in it that still have to be resolved. But Sling wants a larger number of eyes looking at things...This is valuable feedback.

BETA doesn't mean you you remove working functions of previous versions.

 Also please can someone advise if when custom codes are used, the remote control on the mobile software (like palm) will be usable?

The company confirmed that it didn't work before, and we should be waiting for new versions for either desktop or mobile software. Thanks.

August 7, 2008 8:23 PM

The new UI is cosmetically attractive, understated, and slick. Beyond that, my thoughts:

1) On the tivo S3 remote, there's no hotkey for the all-important ASPECT button. That means I need to pop up the on-screen remote control every time I watch a program in a different aspect ratio. This is a real bummer and a regression from 1.5 which allowed me to create a shortcut on the buttonbar for it. Why is it so difficult to allow for user-assignable hotkeys? It's been years, folks.

2) In much the same vein, with the loss of the shortcut bar essentially all customization is now history. We didn't have much before, and now we've got none at all. This is a real shame. There's a ton of unused white (OK, black but you get what I mean) space in the application. Plenty of room for customizable toolbars or buttonbars to the right of the "Streaming..." at the bottom of the video window and to the right of the "Help" menu.

3) Why not offer a feature to automatically set the aspect ratio and size video content properly? Call it "remove black bars". Revolutionary, eh?

4) The program still doesn't handle multi-monitor desktops properly. When I have it up fullscreen on monitor 1 and start working on monitor 1, the bottom of the screen is covered by my windows taskbar.

5) The fade and slide in/out transitions are peechy keen and all but I want to _use_ this application. I want it lean, mean, and responsive. Any way to turn em off?

6) I really miss the borderless window from 1.5. Another lost feature in 2.0.

7) After upgrading, I started up the new setup assistant and during the network setup. I don't use DHCP; it assumes (and in fact [i]insists[/i]) that you do. I had to turn it on to set the IP address back to where I wanted it. It's a good thing I realized that, because I thought my slingbox was bricked and I was about to hard reset it!

8) I don't care about the guide, I have a DVR. Who doesn't these days?

9) The live buffer is a nice addition and in truth the only positive change in the slingplayer not only for this update but for the last couple of years. But it too has a lot of little problems in its implementation.

10) Lets say you're 20 minutes behind in the buffer, and a commercial comes up. You hit alt-F, (to TiVo 30-second-skip) by habit and *boom* you skip back to realtime. Whoops. You've lost your place now. Leaving the buffer and returning to live streaming should be a conscious decision at all times. If that's not possible, then the user's position in the buffer timeline could be bookmarked with a little red line or something.

11) The live buffer UI could use a great deal of polish.
- The drag control is just a grey block; why not include the time by default instead of requiring a mouseover?
- The time scale changes as you continue to stream, from 10m to 30m to 60m. That's confusing, bad design. Why not start at 60m?
- Add graphical tick marks 25% of the bar for reference.
- Consider basing the live buffer bar upon absolute time, not relative time. In other words, instead of starting at 0m and ending at 60m, start at the hour before the user began streaming and end at the next hour after. So if you began streaming at 9:12PM, the bar would begin at 8:00PM and end at 11:00PM. You know, like TiVo.

12) Why no hotkeys to skip back and forth through the live buffer? Why is dragging a slider with the mouse the only way to manipulate your position in the buffer? Add hotkeys to seek (30s either way),  skip (to the nearest "tick" mark from #11 above), slow-motion, step through frame by frame, and FFW/REW at various speeds through the buffer.

13) Video zoom controls don't pay attention to the monitor boundaries in windowed mode. Switching from pillarbox to anamorphic will frequently put 1/3 of the video off the side of the screen.

August 7, 2008 8:40 PM

Sgt Rock said: Still a lack of new remote codes for the European market.
The download page on SM said: "Note that this release is FOR US CUSTOMERS ONLY." I wouldn't expect any more European codes just yet.

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August 7, 2008 8:42 PM

Lots of good points rodalpho. Hopefully the folks at Sm are reading these posts.

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August 7, 2008 8:44 PM updated: August 7, 2008 9:42 PM

Had trouble running the Beta 2.0, downloaded OK no problem but half way through install I received this error message,

Error 25007 while installing fusion, setup could not load fusion with LoadLibraryShim() Error 0X80131702.

Running XP Pro 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600

Deleted data and re-downloaded, same error.

Any help would be appreciated.

Ron W.

August 7, 2008 9:32 PM

Install went OK on my Slingbox AV, but it has just about fried my Pro. Whatever software it installed as a firmware update not makes Slingplayer think that the device was not designed for the U.S. market. I can't set the damn thing up at all now!

I've tried res-etting the Slingbox and rebooting my computer, but it's still doing it.

Considering I bought this unit direct from Sling, I'll be furious if this is a non-US unit that I've been using for a year now.

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