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Slingbox to Slip Ads Into TV Viewing?

What do you think about Sling Media sending ads to you over your Slingplayer? According to this Patent [link] they may have the ability to do just that.

Here is one example of what is possible:

Say you are watching a television broadcast; in this case a baseball game. The Slingbox determines that a particular baseball player is currently at the plate. Based on this information, the Slingbox selects an advertisement for a site that sells sports memorabilia. To do this, the Slingbox may select a URL for a web page on the website where the viewer can buy an autographed ball from the baseball player that is currently batting.

This supplemental content is then delivered to the user's personal computer with the television broadcast. As a result, while the user is watching their favorite player at bat during a baseball game on the personal computer, they also receive an advertisement for the relevant sports memorabilia as well as a link to a web page where the user can easily buy the advertised product.

Here are some of the ways, according to the patent, that they can send advertisements.

  • The Slingbox may add video content (the advertisement) in the front of the video content of the media stream.

  • They could ad it at the end of the video content of the media stream, or they could overlay the video content of the media stream with an adverttisement.

  • The supplemental content (Advertisement) may be sent through a phone call, a fax, or the postal service to the user's home.

  • Rather than sending the supplemental content (the Advertisement) to the destination system (you) , they may send information necessary for you to access the supplemental information, like the a particular web page.

  • The system may send a uniform resource locator (URL) associated with the supplemental content (Advertisement) to you, which you may then retrieve the supplemental content using the URL through a network.

  • The system may display a television program (media stream) using a Slingplayer, and overlay an advertisement (supplemental content) as a scrollbar (or text ticker) on the television program using the Slingplayer.

  • They could make it so it will launch a web browser to display the web page associated with the URL, while displaying the media stream using a media player.

  • The system replaces a portion of the media stream with the supplemental content. For example, they may replace an advertisement for a company with a different advertisement for the company that is determined to be more relevant to the user (you).

The patent describes, in detail, how they can determine the Context Information or type of advertising to send you. It's an interesting read if you are somene that likes to get into the nitty gritty details.

No one is saying the Sling Media is going to use this technology or what kind of pre-arranged sign up program they might have. But, it appears they are gearing up their ability to do some or more of the things mentioned above.

In this Slinger's opinion, even though the idea and technology behind this is amazing, I'm not sure I'm keen on the idea of having ads interjected into my already commercial filled TV shows. Of course, I'd be interested to see what advertisements pop up when I'm monitoring my home video camera from my hotel room...

What do you think of this concept? Post your thoughts in the discussion below.

Brandon C. - Lead Moderator
SlingCommunity.com

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Discussion:    Add a Comment | Comments 1-18 of 18 | Latest Comment

November 2, 2007 6:46 PM

THIS WOULD SUCK! It would completely turn people off to Slingboxes. We see so many ads already in our lives, this would just add to it. It is the WRONG thing to do.

I have no problem with Sling Media putting ads in content they were to provide or before or after a Clip and Sling Clip, but not to the regular stream. That's just wrong...

Slinging with a Slingbox Pro, a Slingbox Solo and a Slingbox Classic. 3 Replay TV units, a Roku HD1000 Photobridge and a Roku M2000 Soundbridge, an AppleTV, a Vudu, and digital cable. www.na9d.net

November 2, 2007 7:23 PM

It would be better if they spent their time adding devices.  Like the most popular IPTV DVR, the Amino 500.  It has been out for years and they still don't support it.

November 2, 2007 7:43 PM

I suppose it would be OK if they replaced normal ad content with their own since it's ad space already, but I don't think the broadcasters would like that...

Slinging with a Slingbox Pro, a Slingbox Solo and a Slingbox Classic. 3 Replay TV units, a Roku HD1000 Photobridge and a Roku M2000 Soundbridge, an AppleTV, a Vudu, and digital cable. www.na9d.net

November 2, 2007 10:24 PM

No way! If this were free software, that might be understandable, but people have shelled out money for Slingbox.

November 3, 2007 12:42 AM

We paid to sling our tv content which already has ads.  Why are they trying to create another revenue stream?  That would suck big time.  It's not like we are using their bandwidth which loses them money; we're using our own.  If they do this, I'm so through with them.

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November 3, 2007 1:16 AM

Like I said, who knows how they will use thier technology.

But, if you could opt in or out of email's or the like, would you opt in?

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November 3, 2007 10:49 AM

Why would anyone want ads?

Slingbox A/V connected to a Philips DSR704

Moderator and author at DVRplayground

November 3, 2007 11:52 PM

Say you are watching a television broadcast; in this case a baseball game. The Slingbox determines that a particular baseball player is currently at the plate. Based on this information, the Slingbox selects an advertisement for a site that sells sports memorabilia.

First of all, like of all of you I totally disagree with this being implemented. After paying a lot of money for these devices, I would not be impressed if it decided to "inject" advertising into the streaming content.

Whats worse is to me, this is a bad direction that sling media is heading into and I HOPE this patent is something delt more with their posssible integration of technology into the Echostar products and not the Sling Devices. If it happens to the Sling Devices, then in my opinion, Sling Media has lost touch with the interests of their customers and more focused on becoming a "cash cow" with potential advertisers.

But this is what especally bugs me: From what they say in their patent, (and if it applies to the slingbox and slingplayer) this means that the slingbox / slingplayer software is analyzing the content you are watching and sending data off to advertisers, who are out of your control......  That doesn't sit right to me at all. (Plus, if that's the case, whats the point of encrypting the stream if the video and video statistics are just not private to you anymore?)

If Sling Media ever implements this into the slingbox, I assure you I will not accept any future firmware / software updates from sling media and I will not have any interest in buying any future sling media products.

November 4, 2007 2:48 PM

And they think people are going to pay for a box that gives them ads? No way. Somehow they always keep me on older firmware... First the recording, now this...

November 4, 2007 4:45 PM

No, HELL NO! No way would I ever ever upgrade. My system works fine, I have a static IP address on the sending router and if i never upgrade I will be fine. What are they kidding? We are not buying software, we are buying hardware. That is like the radio manufacture in your car taking over your radio and playign you ads they want you to hear. Sling should realize that theya re a hardware company. If I want directed ads and tracking etc, I will visit websites. I own the content legally and I don't want anybody interferring. What the hell (sorry for the swearing but I am really riled up about this, and I don't usually curse)

 If Sling did this they would be no different than Comcast would they? Right now Comcast, when you try to download form BitTorrent they interrupt your request and and tell your computer the connection was dropped by the receiving computer and to the receiving computer they send a message that the requesting computer has dropped the connection. Now I don't use BitTorrent, I doubt that I ever would, ut it jsut irks me that the ISP's are interferring and stopping requests.

It is a slippery slope, and I am starting to realize that the NetNeutrality groups are way way ahead of me in forward thinking. I think I will find some NetNeutrality websites and join. The ISP's and hardware manufactures have no business coming between me and what I request.

Now websites are different, I am visiting the website owners website, and if I don't like what they want to send me on their website I just don't visit. But having my Sling stream (which I am the content owner legally) read and then action taken to target me with anything, that idea is going to be met with a swift reaction.  Net Neutrality, where do I sign up?

I just learned about Flash Cookies! These are cookies hidden in the Flash Player. Search on Google for more information. I just went and deleted lots of  Flash cookies. I didn't even know those were there. What irks me about the Flash Cookies is that I don't get asked if I want to allow the cookie or not. I have my IE settings set that I get asked if I want to accept a cookie. The Flash cookies are set and I didn't even know it.

Sling Media will not sell Sling Players if they head down this slope. They will kill their business.

November 4, 2007 4:52 PM

Rox,

You say you own the content owner of your SlingStream...

I doubt that. There is technology in there owned by SlingMedia, the content that you are watching owned by the original provider - network or studio, etc. I don't know if you can claim ownership on anything related to the stream.

However, I agree with everything else you say...

Slinging with a Slingbox Pro, a Slingbox Solo and a Slingbox Classic. 3 Replay TV units, a Roku HD1000 Photobridge and a Roku M2000 Soundbridge, an AppleTV, a Vudu, and digital cable. www.na9d.net

November 4, 2007 5:54 PM

And they think people are going to pay for a box that gives them ads?

 Unfortunately, many people pay for things that give them ads—TiVo?

Slingbox A/V connected to a Philips DSR704

Moderator and author at DVRplayground

November 4, 2007 8:54 PM

I was just thinking some more about this and I might see an "acceptable" use for this...

I can see SlingMedia inserting ads before and after streams that are being pulled in via Clip and Sling (and I alluded to this in my first post actually). Remember, Clip and Sling will allow you to post clips to a web portal and then view them likely via your Slingbox. So, I can see how they would want to be able to generate ad revenue from the use of that feature. So while I don't like ads period, using them as part of clip and sling would be acceptable. Inserting them into my video feed from my DVR or cable box would not be...

Slinging with a Slingbox Pro, a Slingbox Solo and a Slingbox Classic. 3 Replay TV units, a Roku HD1000 Photobridge and a Roku M2000 Soundbridge, an AppleTV, a Vudu, and digital cable. www.na9d.net

November 5, 2007 6:24 PM

We already paid for our Slingboxes.

We pay for the Internet connection.

We pay or paid for the content, with ads or without them, depending on the content you stream, (TV, DVR, CCTV, DVD's, own content, etc)

The main reason for having the DVR is for timeshift the preferred shows at your own convenience, plus the ability to skip commercials, we pay a monthly fee for having it (Dish DVR, Directv, TiVo, etc.)

It would be completely wrong to stream ads at the beginning, end or during the stream.

I am totally against it.

 Thanks,

Balperro

November 5, 2007 8:39 PM

OK gang,

We have an update on this.

See:
http://www.slingcommunity.com/blog/entry/25308/Slingbox-will-not-slip-in-ads/

November 14, 2007 6:47 PM

So what if I have my Slingbox hooked up to a security system? Am I gonna see a commercial break come on just as somebody is trying to break into the facility? Not everybody uses these things to watch television on. Especially now that Webview Livescope and other services are WAY WAY WAY to expensive for what they are actually worth. This was not listed in the product description or original manuals when people originally purchased this device. To me it sounds like a lawsuit in the making. I see many patents for products that are just in place on an experimental basis and never actually rolled out. Hopefully its just one of those or perhaps something that will be used in a future device that they have yet to put out on the market. Even if they do, I sure hope that its listed in the product description. 

February 1, 2008 4:00 PM

Holy crap people. Are you kidding?

Do you really think Sling is going to force a bunch of ads down the throats of paying customers? Do you understand that they're in the business of making money and putting ads on top of your tv viewing will ensure plumetting sales?

What if the "additional content" is an option to have standings for your fantasy league on a ticker whenever you watch a football game? Or an option to be shown ads that you may be interested in and get compensated for it. Or perhaps the option to show user-created informative pop-ups for episodes of you favorite show; think VH1's pop-up videos. In fact, once we start talking about user-created additional content the sky is the limit and it has the potential to be extremely cool.

I can't believe people here think that Sling would alienate it's entire userbase for some paltry ad revenues. 

February 1, 2008 4:08 PM

No. They aren't going to force ads. What it's for is so that ads can be inserted before and after Clip and Sling content which is different all together.

Slinging with a Slingbox Pro, a Slingbox Solo and a Slingbox Classic. 3 Replay TV units, a Roku HD1000 Photobridge and a Roku M2000 Soundbridge, an AppleTV, a Vudu, and digital cable. www.na9d.net

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