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SlingMedia claims that it 'enables you to watch your TV programming from wherever you are by turning virtually any Internet-connected PC into your personal TV." I had a hard time swallowing that after I saw the its performance.

Any reasonable consumer would assume that when an Internet-connected PC becomes a personal TV, that it would somewhat resemble television (picture quality, full-motion picture, etc.) This is, however, not the case with SlingMedia.

What's sad is that the positive feedback Sling has received is because the people reviewing it haven't tested it over long distances. Sure it looks okay when you're running it across a 1.5 Mbps LAN, but what about when you're halfway around the world?

Seriously, get out of the office and see what happens when you check out Sling a few miles from the source over a Wi-Fi connection. Then give your reviews about this $250 novelty. As is, I can't see this being anything more than a candidate for "the must-have gadget that is most likely to get shelved in three days."

So how does one get a TV-quality picture? TV2Me. It's more expensive, but you get what you pay for. Schaffer, the guy who invented it, let me watch TV from Moscow and the quality was much better than Sling. This actually looked like TV.

I just read a blog about a guy watching Tel Aviv TV with this thing on an airplane to New York:

http://novaspivack.typepad.com/nova_spivacks_weblog/2005/10/...

That's impressive. I'd like to see Sling try something like that.

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January 21, 2007 10:59 AM

OK.  I think one of the goals of this Community is to relate to people who don't own a SB or, perhaps, folks who haven't actually put theirs to the test remotely.  Until yesterday, I was the latter.

As of this moment, I am sitting on my fat rear in the US Virgin Islands, some 1500 miles or so from my home in the Northeast where my Directv HD Tivo and regular resolution Sony Directv box reside -- connected, of course, to my SB Pro (Christmas present from my beautiful daughters).  By the way, it's 82.8 degrees here -- I digress.  Anyway, we have cable IP at home and some sort of broadband here in the USVI.  Before I got here, believe me, I had my doubts.  No question the picture and sound are better on the LAN at home, but not much better.

 I am astonished how good the picture and sound are remotely.  I'm streaming mid-500's to mid-900's Kbps, with, probably, 700's being the average.

Could it be better, sure.  But is it watchable, absolutely.  In fact, it's so good I'm thinking about routing it all to my 36 inch Panasoinc direct view TV and my stereo receiver.

But not now.  I'm going to the beach.

January 21, 2007 3:17 PM

Different markets, guys. No **** the $5k box blows the SlingBox out of the water. But, for most people, it isn't worth $5k to get their TV in native quality anywhere.

Most of us will settle for watchable quality for cheap, as opposed to pristine quality for $$$$.    

January 22, 2007 1:10 PM

Agree entirely -  the picture quality is important, but it's of secondary importance to the content. Hell, five years ago, I watched something on a live feed of Portuguese TV using a dialup connection. Sure, it wasn't TV quality, but it was something I wanted to see, and that was the most convenient way to see it.  For most people, it's a big enough breakthrough just to be able to watch TV from back home at all. 

Given the choice, I'd rather spend US$5k on a TV2Me than a HDTV set, but I don't have that to spend, and would be happy with a SlingBox and SlingCatcher. (Incidentally, TV2Me doesn't have an equivalent to the SlingCatcher, so there.Tongue out)   

 

February 5, 2007 11:50 AM

I "slinged" from the Crown Princess in the Caribbean over the summer on my Dell Axim X51v PDA. It was awesome. Practically no skipped frames - smooth - etc etc etc. I could monitor myu birds with a camera, and flip to my TV to watch local programming while relaxing.

For the $250, I got WAY more than I ever expected. I'm a gadget freak, but $5k for this technology? Are you kidding? Sling has made an otherwise "novelty" affordable to the masses. So for opnce, us less than rich can enjy something that appears only for the rich. I've blown people away with the Sling technology, and some of those poeple have "toys" that make me drool. 

 

May 16, 2007 8:51 AM

jessijohnson said:
Not only does TV2Me control "a myriad of video sources" (check the TV2Me website) but it does it at DVD quality. I'm talking full screen on a 62-inch plasma screen.

 

 Ill just pack my 62 inch plasma screen in my carry on along with my Nieman-Marcus Jet Pack and personal submersable water craft.

jessijohnson said:

I'd like to see someone (magazine/reporter) test both and give some feedback. TV2Me has already beaten out Sony's LocationFree (NY Times article), I doubt Slingbox will be any different.

 

 Because US media such an great source for unbiased information.

"id rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy." Tom Waits

View unverified member's comment - posted by BlackDragon

May 16, 2007 10:50 AM

The key to this whole discussion is that they're not even realistically competing products...

 

Slinging Tivo HD, Tivo S2, and OTA from a Pro HD, Tivo HD from a Pro, Tivo HD from a Solo, and Humax DRT800 from a Classic to iPhone, Dell Inspiron 1520 with Sprint EVDO, and a SlingCatcher over Mi-Connection cable with 2Mbps upload.

May 16, 2007 12:13 PM

agreed. it's a stupid and pointless discussion by someone who obviously works for another company.

and since sling has given me the permission to express my opinion, my opinion about/for this jessijohnson shim is shut up kkthxbai.

May 18, 2007 8:39 AM

Well I have one customer who has 3 slings each with 1mb speed.

He also has a TV2me system that he is very unhappy with. The TV2ME would not stream at higher speeds even though the server it was attached to had a lot of bandwidth. Then TV2ME wanted US$450 to make a software adjustment as their own software limited the device to a lousy 350kpbs.. TV2me wants to change from firefox to explorer for device functions too.

 It has taken TV2me over one month and this unit the customer sent me is still not opertaional.... what a F... up.

Ok now it's up to 640kpbs and the MPEG4 is better than the slings Mpeg2.

But at 20 times the cost the customer is very unhappy.

So unhappy he's ready to try my own MPEG4 system based on linux. So far in testing things have gone well with writing our own IR codes and getting the Mpeg4 sorted and the ensuring that there is no frame rate problems.

One other advantage with Pentium based linux is that it can record programming to the hard drive and also needs less bandwidth to get good picture quality.

The Slings do a great service for the low end $$$ user

If Evolution Works, Why So Many Idiots?

May 18, 2007 9:46 AM

Anyone watch the Detroit v. Anahiem game last night? Steve Yzerman was interviewed and said while he was in Russia for the International Ice Hockey Championships, he watched the Detroit playoffs games on his Slingbox. 9 out of 10 millionaire celebrities prefer Slingbox over TV2me.

"id rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy." Tom Waits

June 4, 2007 2:06 AM

I bought a SB Pro today with an intention to watch Asia TV show in my home in Canada. I sucessfully configure the setting that can watch the canadian soruce TV from my home in Canada. Then I browed the Slingcommunnity to see some comment from other users, I started to worry that the slingbox may not work as my intention-I saw this post "Slingbox doesn't go the distance"

 I can't wait! I asked my friend in Asia (10267 Km from my home in Canada) to help me test my new slingbox. The result is "great". The TV show is smooth. Although the video quality is a little bit worst than if the computer  plug in directly from the TV source, it is highly acceptable. My friend said she gives 95% out of 100% for the video quality, but what can you expect, it is 10267KM away! (I have a 1M upload speed).

I didn't know what's TV4ME but from this discussion I knew it cost $5000 for the same function of SB, who will try TV4ME? For those who complain the video quality, I would say it may becuase of your low upload speed. But technology is changing everyday, 1M upload speed is now more affordable. 2M upload speed will be affordable soon too. SB is the best choice.

By the way, I didn't know there is a product call Slingbox until yesterday I browe the Besybuy website. After some research, I decided to buy a SB Pro to try. If it was not function as my intention, I will return the SB to Bestbuy. If you suspect SB doesn't go the distance, why don't you buy one to try and refund it if it does not work?

 I cetainly will keep the SB!

September 22, 2007 5:29 AM

Question:Can I get TV programs from the States (Ca,) to my TV in Spain? My son says I can utilize his cable box in California to get the same programs that he gets,is this true? and if so,how I go about this?I would think I would have to use his code number( for his cable box ) in order to do that.I suppose I would have to order the "Slingbox" from the states because they don't have them here in Spain.I have high speed cable for my computer and TV.My TV is also duel system.Can anyone shed a little light on this? Thanks!

View unverified member's comment - posted by noel646

September 23, 2007 9:09 AM

HI James, if you connect the slingbox to your cable box in US, your son may watch the program (from Spain or around the world) that you have at your home. If you connect the slingbox to your son's cable box, then you may watch the program (from US and around the world) that your son has in home in Spain.

1) Slingbox use internet singal to transfer your TV signal around the world. To get a good TV signal, you need a good high speed internet. The upload speed is very important if you want to share your TV program with your son (US to Spain). I would suggest 1MB/second uploading speed.

 

2) Once you connect the slingbox to your cable box at US, and finished the necessary setup, (include installing the slingplayer into your son and/or your own computer), you may share the TV signal through the computer and computer monitor. But if yoy want to watch that TV at your television instead of from your computer monitor, then you need a computer hardware with TV output to transfer the TV signal to your television, the hardware need may be a good computer video card with TV output, or a TV card with TV output. <-- you need to setup the computer to transfer TV signal from your computer to your son's TV.

 

setup is like this:

from USA:

USA TV signal sources-->Slingbox-->internet (with router is ok)

from Spain:

internet -->computer with slingplayer installed-->Monitor or Television

 Please note that, once you setup properly, not even your son can watch the US tv progam from Spain, you may watch the program from around the world that has internet and slingplayer installed, e.g. bring your laptop to travel.

Remind you again, UPLOADING (not downloading) speed is very very important, check with your internet service provider if you have 1MB/second uploading speed. If you don't have high uploading speed, you may still watch the TV signl, but the TV signal will be very poor and blur.

 Hope this help you 

 

 

September 23, 2007 1:08 PM

Hi Hawks:

I appreciate the information.I am not interested in my son back in California being able to the TV programs from Spain,but what I really want is for me to be able to watch the stateside programs by connecting to his TV (he is on cable) and has a cable box that he goes through,and he does not have a sling box.My computer is new,and has a PCI express G force 6200 (512MB) HIPERMEMORY (256MB) Grafica card.( on my components list it has a CD/TV CARD listed).I am on broadband cable (100.0 Mbps connecting speed),but I assume I have enough upload speed.In essence,I have to go thru my computer to use the sling box,is that correct?I have read some of the postings where people are saying they are connecting directly to their TV without even a mention of their computer,and I did find that rather odd.I know that Spain is light years ahead of some of the countries that people claim to be using their sling box from and to.Sure would be nice to be able to watch some of the sporting events from the States.Again,I appreciate the info you have given me,and would appreciate any other ideas you may have. Thanks!

September 23, 2007 3:13 PM

Yes you can watch your US content in Spain.  However if you use your sons cable TV you must watch the same content unless you setup a second cable tv box that your sling in the US controls.

So it's better to get a second cable TV box so that you adn your son can watch different content independently.

Be careful about assuming you have broadband at 100mbps because thats usually a myth. Your router maybe able to theoretically handle that speed but your upload in the US will be nowhere near that.

However slings are designed to run on low bandwidth and do that well.

Generally yes you connect watch on your computer but you can output to projectors and TV's from your VGA outputs.

 

 

 

If Evolution Works, Why So Many Idiots?

January 14, 2008 12:25 PM

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January 15, 2008 8:54 AM

Slingbox wins cost + quality

January 15, 2008 9:07 AM

If you have got 5 grand to but the TV2ME unit why would you buy it surely you can afford of be in a location where you don't require TV from home.

I use my slingbox as I work on a boat in Angola I am sure if I had 5 grand to buy one of these

I sure F.... would not be working..... 

February 21, 2008 6:59 PM

I have 2 slingbox classics. They are connected to my smoking dsl 8192/756 connection. My freind in austrailia watches MANY of his favorite tv shows on my sling. I have zero complaints on sling media. most problems relating to connectivity are solved very quickly via the FAQ;s or a call to support. I am awaiting the new sling player 2.0. I must say that I did buy one of the Monsoon HAVA gold products. it was far below the level of both hardware and  woefully lower than the slingplayer.  their support was helpful but, I am very happy with my 'classic' slingboxes.

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