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August 13, 2006 5:04 AM

I have a Treo 650 and a Tungsten C. I am holding off buying the Slingbox for this one reason. When will you support the Palm OS system? I an many other people are looking forward to buying it when you do. On another note, my friend with a Pocket PC says it works great. He enjoys watching the Slingbox at work over lunch.

August 27, 2006 7:05 PM

I have a Treo 700p and I too will buy a Slingbox only when you create a PalmOS client.  

March 28, 2007 6:31 AM

I have the software successfully loaded into  my tungsten E3 but cannot get past the Password screen.

March 28, 2007 8:52 AM

As announced at CES, we've released a publicly available player for the 700p by the end of March.  We're working on supporting other models of course, but the 700p was a logical starting point due to its support of 3G. 

There's only one situation I know of in which the current release simply won't run on a 700p: a small fraction of Sprint 700p owners have a phone with no serial number (HSSN).  You can check to see if you have an HSSN, using the Phone Info icon from your main Palm OS home screen.

Next I would check basic data streaming capabilities, e.g. Blazer, pTunes, etc.  If these stream reasonably well, and you have a 700p with an HSSN, then you should be set to stream your TV using SPM for Palm OS (assuming you have a Slingbox of course).

For the 700p cases with a missing HSSN, we're working on a fix.  This fix hopefully will have positive spill-over consequences for other models that get stuck at the registration screen. 

I don't yet have a release date for the fix, but we'll obviously need to do in-house testing once it's ready, so I would plan on at least a couple of weeks.  Why?  Because we can't release a build that hasn't gone through a basic level of testing first.  (We don't plan on being responsible for (e.g.) data loss any time soon.)  This is the nature of the development beast.  We're pretty focused though and will remain on schedule if at all humanly possible.

Meanwhile, 700p users (with the above caveats) can sling today.

March 28, 2007 2:16 PM

And 680 users with decent EDGE connections. :-)

-MegaZone, Sling Media Beta Manager
Slingbox Pro, HD Connect, TiVo Series3, TiVo Pioneer DVR-810H, SPM Treo 680, SP WinXP
(I also run GizmoLovers.com)

March 28, 2007 2:45 PM

I too am trying to load the s'ware but cannot get pass the registration screen. It asks me for a reg #. I have had no problems streaming with ptunes....

 thanx - john

March 28, 2007 3:17 PM

Hawk4hire - Which phone model do you have, and if it's a 700p, does it have an HSSN?  (See comment above.)

March 28, 2007 6:36 PM

Hmmm ... most Palms are NOT phones.  Palm OS is not a phone OS, it's a PDA OS.  Until you support Palm PDA's, you don't support Palm.

Tungsten C, and LifeDrive have WiFi, other Palms have Bluetooth networking (FWIW).  How about supporting those?

March 28, 2007 10:26 PM

All of the other Palms run older versions of the Garnet OS (or pre-Garnet, which I do not expect to ever be supported).  The older versions of Garnet have more 'quirks' which will take more to deal with.  There are also hardware considerations, the Treo 650/680/700p have a 312MHz CPU and currently just manage 15fps.  So there are likely going to be barriers to ever supporting some of the older devices.

The TX and LifeDrive are probably viable.  The LifeDrive has a 416MHz CPU and the TX has 312Mhz, and both run Garnet (5.4).  The Tungsten E2 runs Garnet and has BlueTooth, but only a 200MHz CPU.  The T5 is a possible - Garnet + 416MHz and BlueTooth.  But I think that's going to be it.  700p and 680 work today.  The Treo 650, TX, LifeDrive, and (maybe) the T5 are the other Garnet Palms with networking of some kind and a decent CPU.  The E2 has Garnet and BlueTooth, but a significantly slower CPU.  (The Zire 22 runs Garnet, but has a 160x160 screen, 200MHz CPU, and no networking.)

The Tungsten C has a fast CPU (400MHz), but it runs the positively ancient (in Palm terms) 5.2.1 OS.  Same issue with the Tungsten T3.

Just as I wouldn't expect Sling to support old WinCE and PocketPC PDAs just because they support WinMob5/6 devices, I wouldn't expect them to support older versions of Palm OS.  Older versions of the operating systems just don't have the same features, and there is no return on development costs as the products haven't even been produced for ages.

I think Palm would disagree with you too.  Palm OS is a mobile device OS, they do not consider it a PDA OS.  It has been used on PDAs, smart phones, GPS devices, industrial devices, even a simple mini-laptop.   Palm has emphasized that the major market for them currently and for the immediate future are smartphones.  The Treo is the only product line being developed, at least that is known to the public.  The LifeDrive was discontinued not long ago, the other PDAs haven't been refreshed in quite a while and there are no known plans to do so.

Here's a list of which OS is on which Palm.  My bet is anything older than 5.4 is SOL.  

-MegaZone, Sling Media Beta Manager
Slingbox Pro, HD Connect, TiVo Series3, TiVo Pioneer DVR-810H, SPM Treo 680, SP WinXP
(I also run GizmoLovers.com)

March 29, 2007 9:35 AM

Sharon - its not a 700p. I also have the LifeDrive which has had no problems with Video or streaming video over the net.  I was commenting on the Lifedrive, which may be the problem. Thanx for your support and quick response. I will try to work around this issue. I wonder, is there a registration number I can use to try it out? I imagine there are a lot of us out here willing to play guinea pigs :-)  to help test this.

When starting out the Slingware asks me for my email address and a registration number.

thanx again -

March 29, 2007 6:51 PM

The software does not work on the LifeDrive yet, it just doesn't work regardless of registration.

-MegaZone, Sling Media Beta Manager
Slingbox Pro, HD Connect, TiVo Series3, TiVo Pioneer DVR-810H, SPM Treo 680, SP WinXP
(I also run GizmoLovers.com)

April 9, 2007 2:45 PM

Sharon R. (Sling Media) said: As announced at CES, we've released a publicly available player for the 700p by the end of March.  We're working on supporting other models of course, but the 700p was a logical starting point due to its support of 3G.  There's only one situation I know of in which the current release simply won't run on a 700p: a small fraction of Sprint 700p owners have a phone with no serial number (HSSN).  You can check to see if you have an HSSN, using the Phone Info icon from your main Palm OS home screen. Next I would check basic data streaming capabilities, e.g. Blazer, pTunes, etc.  If these stream reasonably well, and you have a 700p with an HSSN, then you should be set to stream your TV using SPM for Palm OS (assuming you have a Slingbox of course). For the 700p cases with a missing HSSN, we're working on a fix.  This fix hopefully will have positive spill-over consequences for other models that get stuck at the registration screen.  I don't yet have a release date for the fix, but we'll obviously need to do in-house testing once it's ready, so I would plan on at least a couple of weeks.  Why?  Because we can't release a build that hasn't gone through a basic level of testing first.  (We don't plan on being responsible for (e.g.) data loss any time soon.)  This is the nature of the development beast.  We're pretty focused though and will remain on schedule if at all humanly possible. Meanwhile, 700p users (with the above caveats) can sling today.

Ahh!  Thanks for that explanation, Sharon - I think I understand now why the TX doesn't work with the current build.  Presumably the HSSN is similar to the IMEI present in GSM phones and provides a way for Sling to 'marry up' a device and a reg code.  Hmm - out of interest I'll go back to an earlier version of the beta (that didn't have the same registration bug) and try it with the Kinoma codecs on board!

Alan

 

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