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Topcat2

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Can anybody help. Would like to run At- Large recorder on (new, supplied with ver 1.3) UK model Slingbox. FTP site or anything !!! All links on forum end up at ver 1.3 or greater.

UK user with Classic Slingbox (using internal freeview tuner) running Slingplayer on Sony Vaio Laptop and Sling Player Mobile on HTC Wizard/MDAVario. Recording using River Past Screen Recorder (Screen capture)

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October 24, 2006 4:33 AM

I am confused myself. I just bought a SlingBox here in Canada, and not sure about the recording. I want to use At-Large Recorder but not sure wether I should:

 - Downgrade the firmware on the slingbox itself or

- Downgrade the Slingplayer software

 I read other posts here that people install previous player versions on their USB keys and then use the recorder, while I read other posts that older firmware is needed because of the encryption

 

Really appreciate your help

October 24, 2006 5:01 AM

I'm still totally confused so have settled for caturing the screen with River Past Screen Recorder. It does a good job at a resonable price. Keep in thouch if you find out more. Regards TC

UK user with Classic Slingbox (using internal freeview tuner) running Slingplayer on Sony Vaio Laptop and Sling Player Mobile on HTC Wizard/MDAVario. Recording using River Past Screen Recorder (Screen capture)

October 24, 2006 5:07 AM

I wish someone here will be able to help us with this problem. Seems lots of people managed to downgrade and use At Large Recorder. Its a matter of which software to downgrade - The firmware or Splingplayer

October 24, 2006 9:05 AM

I have been able to run the At Large demo after installing 1.0.5.140, and record a 5-minute stream correctly.   I have put this setup file on my website if you'd like to download it.  The address is:

http://www.jasondearing.net/sling/Sli...

If there are any problems with my hosting this file (SlingMedia, please let me know), or if there's any abuse as a result of my hosting it, I will promptly remove the file. 

However, I hae not been able to get At Large to change video inputs on my SlingBox Pro, or change the channel prior to recording, so I'm currently stuck recording whatever my TiVo is shoing at the time.

 

Good luck! 

October 24, 2006 9:37 AM

Thanks for that ........................

UK user with Classic Slingbox (using internal freeview tuner) running Slingplayer on Sony Vaio Laptop and Sling Player Mobile on HTC Wizard/MDAVario. Recording using River Past Screen Recorder (Screen capture)

November 14, 2006 5:05 PM

 
 
 
Dearing said: I have been able to run the At Large demo after installing 1.0.5.140, and record a 5-minute stream correctly. I have put this setup file on my website if you'd like to download it. The address is: http://www.jasondearing.net/sling/Sli... If there are any problems with my hosting this file (SlingMedia, please let me know), or if there's any abuse as a result of my hosting it, I will promptly remove the file. However, I hae not been able to get At Large to change video inputs on my SlingBox Pro, or change the channel prior to recording, so I'm currently stuck recording whatever my TiVo is shoing at the time. Good luck!

 

 

   you will need another software to do scheduled recording see my instructions here

http://www.slingcommunity.com/forum/t...

November 15, 2006 9:35 AM

The old version doesnt seem to see the freeview tuner.  Not very good as that is what i want to use it to record.  anyone else have the same problem?

November 15, 2006 9:45 AM

Yes, I had exactly the same problem hence going down the road of River Past Screen recorder.

UK user with Classic Slingbox (using internal freeview tuner) running Slingplayer on Sony Vaio Laptop and Sling Player Mobile on HTC Wizard/MDAVario. Recording using River Past Screen Recorder (Screen capture)

November 15, 2006 9:57 AM

Okay, waste of $49 then! bummer.  dont suppose they offer refunds do they? only bought it today!

 

does the old firmware allow the new software to be run and recorded

December 15, 2006 2:57 AM

I managed to track down version 1.1.0.153 which is the one to use with At Large in the UK as it includes both Freeview and widescreen. I've uploaded it to a free hosting site as follows for anyone to download.

http://www.mysharefile.com/v/113316/S...

 It's a large download (76MB) but it does the business and I'm now up and running with At Large :-) 

December 15, 2006 5:22 AM

And just to add that the encryption is clearly in the software, not the firmware, and I am using firmware V 1.0.19 without any problems.

December 24, 2006 1:37 PM

I would like to clarify the following:

The encryption is in BOTH Client Software 1.3.0.168 and later AND Firmware version 1.0.86.bin and later.

The last Pre Encryption versions of the Client and Firmware are the 1.2.0.157 Beta release with the 1.0.80.bin Firmware.

In odrer for encryption to work you have to use BOTH a Client AND Firmware that support encryption.

Any combination of

Pre Encryption Client and Pre Encrption Firmware
Pre Encryption Client and Post Encrption Firmware
Post Encryption Client and Pre Encrption Firmware

will have the same effect - encryption cannot be negotiated and so the stream will be sent unencrypted. Applian will work.

For Pre Encryption Firmware, 1.0.80.bin has significantly better video quality than any previous version. I would recommend this version with any later Client Version. I am using this version with The 1.4.0.195 Client and the stream is NOT encrypted. The video quality is good, and most features of the client work fine - skinless view, window modes and video sizes, etc. the only things that don't work are Audio Only Mode and Audio Channel select for Bilingual TV, which require the later Firmware versions to work. (These are not selectable in the Pre Encryption clients)

For Pre Encryption Client, 1.2.0.156 Beta has the same look and feel as all later versions, with skins, etc. It lacks the Audio Only Mode and Audio Channel select menu options provided in the later versions. I would recommend this version with any later Firmware Version. I guess this would also work with other Slingbox models running their Firmware versions, though I cannot try it as I don't have access to non-Classic SBs..

If anyone would like to host the 1.2.0.156 Beta, I can send it. Send me a PM with your e-mail address.
Though this is the US Installer, I believe the included Firmware 1.0.80.bin is the first common version of US (NTSC) and UK (PAL) Firmware, and so should work on all Classis versions.

One last point... Downgrade of Firmware is only possible using 1.2.0.156 Beta or earlier. Later Client versions will not allow any downgrade to any previous version. therefore I would recommend you use 1.2.0.156 Beta to perform the downgrade.

If you then upgrade the Client to any later version, you should remove the Firmware .bin files from the SlingPlayer directory, as detailed elsewhere, to prevent the player from prompting you to upgrade the firmware every time you use the player.

Hope that helps everyone.

Don 

December 26, 2006 2:09 AM

I do not have a server to host it to be able to send a link...
Don't send me a PM without including your email address...
I won't reply.
The File is very large, 43MB, so don't request it if your email account can't accept it..

Don.

December 28, 2006 6:24 AM

Please download from here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/9067157/US_SlingPlayer_PC_1.2.0.157_Setup_Beta-NA.exe
Don

December 30, 2006 1:33 AM

Don,

Many thanks for this. I didn't see your posts before now as I was off line over Christmas! But I think I'll stick to the UK version I haev (1.1.0.153) as I have it set up with At Large and it works just fine.

January 3, 2007 5:47 AM

Today, I have confirmed the following with SBs (PAL and NTSC Classic versions):

At-Large Recorder works with the latest version of the PAL (UK, HK, etc.) Firmware SbPb1_6FwV1_0_10Current.bin (included in the 1.4.0.206 release) and the 1.2.0.157 Beta Player. - Not my recommended option.

At-Large Recorder works with the version of the PAL (UK, HK, etc.) Firmware SbPb1_5FwV1_0_9Current.bin (included in the 1.2.0.157 Beta release) and all later Players including the 1.4.0.206 Player. - My recommended option.

At-Large Recorder works with the latest version of the NTSC (US, JP, etc.) Classic Firmware SbPbFirmwareCurrentV1_0_96.bin (included in the 1.4.0.206 release) and the 1.2.0.157 Beta Player.  - Not my recommended option.

At-Large Recorder works with the version of the NTSC (US, JP, etc.) Classic Firmware SbPbFirmwareCurrentV1_0_80.bin (included in the 1.2.0.157 Beta release) and all later Players including the 1.4.0.206 Player. - My recommended option.

You can install multiple versions of the Player on the same machine, as follows:
Installl the 1.2.0.157 Beta. Copy the entire SlingPlayer Directory to another (SlingPlayer1-2-157) Directory.
Install the next version. Copy the entire SlingPlayer Directory to another (SlingPlayer<version no>) Directory.
Install the next version. Copy the entire SlingPlayer Directory to another (SlingPlayer<version no>) Directory. and so on.
Now you can start any version by running the SlingPlayer.exe in its particular directory. You can keep as many versions as you like.

I have not been able to test with actual hardware, but assume that:

At-Large Recorder will work with the latest version of the Firmware for the Tuner, AV or Pro (included in the 1.4.0.206 release) with the 1.2.0.157 Beta Player.

There is no Pre-encryption Firmware version for the Tuner, AV or Pro, so the At-Large Recorder cannot be used with these models with later versions of the player, unless you do the following:

Copy the entire SlingPlayer Directory to another (SlingPlayer-Modified) Directory. Run the SlingPlayer in this directory and ensure that you are not using one of the new Version 1.4 Skins, Smoked Glass or Red Line. You can use any of the older skins from http://www.slingcommunity.com/projects/list1/ or the VDR.sps Skin included in 1.2.0.157 Beta.
Close the Player and rename the SBCore.dll file in this directory to something like SBCore1-4.dll. Copy the SBCore.dll from the 1.2.0.157 Beta release directory to this Directory.
This effectively converts any later version of SlingPlayer back to 1.2.0.157 Beta with the same 1.2.0.157 Beta menu items, and performance. It does not allow features supported in later player versions such as the different video sizes, one-click skin-hide video-only mode, video resizing in video-only mode, etc.. I have confirmed this works, but is messy.
You can convert back by restarting the Player after renaming the 1.2.0.157 Beta version of SBCore.dll to SBCore1-2.dll and the SBCore1-4.dll back to SBCore.dll. - Not my recommended solution.

If you choose not to use the Pre-Encryption versions of the Firmware, or you can't (Tuner, AV or Pro), then my recommendation is to have two versions of the player installed; the latest version so that you can use the latest Player Features, and the 1.2.0.157 Beta Player for when you wish to use the At-Large Recorder.

Which ever version you choose to use with the At-Large Recorder, you have to remember to set the 'Home Network Video Quality' to LOW or uncheck the 'Enable High-Quality mode for at-home (LAN) viewing' in the Player - SlingPlayer Options - Video Tab if you wish to record locally on the LAN. Otherwise, the video aspect ratio will not be correct. I do not know how this wil work with the higher resolutions of the new models (Tuner, AV, Pro).

Don.

January 11, 2007 5:57 PM

I have a SB AV with the latest software and firmware installed (unfortunately). Since I'm trying to use the at-large software, I have tried to follow thje steps you described. The problem I'm having is that even when I completly uninstalled the sling software, erase every trace from the windows registry, if I want to run the 1.2.0.157 software I get an error messege that reads:

Error -1607: Unable to Install InstallShield Scripting Run Time

 

Any idea what I'm doing wrong? How can I instal the 1.2.0.157 software? 

 

Thanks 

November 11, 2007 6:35 PM

I tested a trial version of At-Large 2.x with my US Slingbox (with the latest firmware) and it no longer requires earlier versions of the Slingplayer. I suspect it will work with the UK product as well. Maybe you can check with Applian support if you don't want to use the trial version to confirm for yourself.

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