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mkoslo

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DON'T BUY HD CONNECT!

If you currently use HDMI cables to connect your cable box and other sources to your HDTV, don't buy HD Connect.

It will not work with the Slingbox Pro unless you disconnect your HDMI cable and use component cables instead.

I find this totally unacceptable. Why would I ever want to downgrade the best digital, uncompressed connection method available.

They obviously didn't think this one through at Sling Media.

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January 12, 2007 4:43 PM

I don't understand.

  1. I have a Slingbox Pro.
  2. I have an HD Connect.
  3. I have a DirecTv HD Tuner.
  4. The HDMI output from my DirecTV Tuner is connected to the HDMI input on my 42" plasma TV.
  5. The component outputs from my DirecTV Tuner are connected to the component inputs on the HD Connect on my Slingbox.
  6. The TV gets a great picture at 1080i from the HDMI connection.
  7. My PC running SlingPlayer gets a much better picture from my Slingbox via the component connections on the HD Connect than it does if I use the S-Video connection.

Where is the problem?

The older I get, the better I was.

January 12, 2007 4:59 PM

The problem is HDCP, do a search for it here..  Some boxes have it, some don't...  Some cables companies do it and some don't on the same box...

 

Slinging Tivo Series 2, Tivo HD, and TW cable from a Pro. Slinging Tivo HD from a Solo, Slinging Humax DRT800, and TW cable from a Classic to Sprint Mogul, AT&T SX66, N62, 8525, and Dell Inspiron 8600 with Sprint EVDO over Windstream DSL.

January 12, 2007 5:11 PM

I get no video, only audio and I was told by Sling support that I could only "solve" my problem by disconnecting my HDMI cable from my Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8300HD box to my LCD HDTV, and use component cables.

 

Not an answer, really.

 

 

 

bancado said: I don't understand.

  1. I have a Slingbox Pro.
  2. I have an HD Connect.
  3. I have a DirecTv HD Tuner.
  4. The HDMI output from my DirecTV Tuner is connected to the HDMI input on my 42" plasma TV.
  5. The component outputs from my DirecTV Tuner are connected to the component inputs on the HD Connect on my Slingbox.
  6. The TV gets a great picture at 1080i from the HDMI connection.
  7. My PC running SlingPlayer gets a much better picture from my Slingbox via the component connections on the HD Connect than it does if I use the S-Video connection.
Where is the problem?

 

 

January 12, 2007 7:54 PM

mkoslo said: DON'T BUY HD CONNECT!   If you currently use HDMI cables to connect your cable box and other sources to your HDTV, don't buy HD Connect. It will not work with the Slingbox Pro unless you disconnect your HDMI cable and use component cables instead. I find this totally unacceptable. Why would I ever want to downgrade the best digital, uncompressed connection method available.They obviously didn't think this one through at Sling Media.

 

You might try the component and see if it changes your picture quality before returning the doggle.  Most people cant notice the difference between the 2.  I know thats not what you want to hear but thats what I would do.

January 12, 2007 10:50 PM

mkoslo, if I may ask, whom is your cable/tv provider?

A shortcut has to be a challenge, because if it was easy, then it would just be the way.

January 30, 2007 4:20 PM

tbone_razor said: mkoslo, if I may ask, whom is your cable/tv provider? 

 

 

 

    Cablevision. 

February 7, 2007 8:06 PM

We're aware of reports that some set-top boxes may disable analog outputs when using HDMI or may experience a handshake issue (HDCP?) with certain televisions. We've had several conversations and email exchanges this week (from the CEO and on down) to better understand the issue and determine what we can do to assist. Additionally, we have folks attempting to replicate these behaviors.

If you've experienced this or seen reports elsewhere, please drop me an email so I can help in pulling together data for the team. I'd like to know what sort of set-top boxes and televisions are in the mix and how things are connected. The more detail you provide, the more we'll be able to do with it.

Thanks!

Slingbox SOLO w/ ASUS Wireless Bridge streaming TiVo Series3
Zatz Not Funny!

March 31, 2007 7:47 AM

The error message was:  'Does not support HDCP. Use YPrPb components". 

Last night I hooked up my new beautiful 40" Samsung lns-4095d to my new Time Warner Scientific Atlantic HD DVR and my Classic SB.  I'm watching SB on my laptop as I write, but only after I physically turned on the new TV in my family room.  Obviously, I don't want to be sitting in my office (showing off my SB like I've been doing for two years) with the TV on at home all day -- or while I'm away on a trip somewhere. 

From what I read here, the TV must be on for me to now use my SB.  Is that right?  It's crazy.  I spent over $100 for the HDMI connection cable as this is what everyone recommended I get for the best picture quality.  So, am I to understand that I have to use lesser component cables in order to use SB remotely? 

March 31, 2007 8:43 AM

First of all -

 

A warning to all out there.  Anyone selling HDMI cables for $100 is RIPPING YOU OFF.  This includes BestBuy, Circuit City, etc.  Cables is where they make all their money.

 

You can get good HDMI cables for $5.00 at monoprice.com.


Second, you won't notice a picture quality difference between component and HDMI.  They both support HD signal formats.  The nice thing about HDMI is that audio is bundled with it so it's one cable.

 

Sorry you (and many others) spent the $100 on the HDMI cables...

 

Jon 

Slinging with a SlingCatcher, a ProHD, a Pro, a Solo, an AV, and a Slingbox Classic. 3 Replay TV units, a Roku Photobridge and a Roku M2000 Soundbridge, an AppleTV, a Vudu, and digital cable. www.na9d.net

April 1, 2007 9:18 PM

Maybe I am wrong, but I always thought that component cables supported analog signals which were converted to digital inside the TV turner, while HDMI supported digital that did not need conversion.

Having said that, I can't tell a difference between component and HDMI.  The professional installers installed component and said that they had past problems with HDMI.  I had them install both, however.  After a month, the audio on the HDMI stopped working.  I just use component.  

 

SlingboxPro; DirecTv HD DVR; Samsung Tivo SD; HP Pavillion ZD7000 Laptop; Compac Evo laptop; Cingular 8525 PPC; Bellsouth FastAccess DSL Ultra 6.0; dynamic IP

April 3, 2007 1:28 PM

yes it SUCKS.  Just got my SB AV today...wasnt working with the HDMI cable.  :-(     I had to change to Component to get it to work.  It worked perfectly as soon as I did that, but like you said it SUCKS that you cant use the HDMI on your HDTV.  I dont know if it is my IMAGINATION or not, but to me it seems like the HD pic isnt quite as good on the Component vs HDMI.

 

I have Time Warner cable with Sci.Atlanta Explorer 8300HD as my box.

 

If anyone knows of a way to get it to work or if their is a patch or something PLEASE let me know

 

THANKS!!

 

JJW 

April 3, 2007 2:58 PM

Component signals are analog and are converted back inside the TV, but you can't tell a difference - at least I can't.  I use both component and HDMI depending on devices and in 720p or 1080i you seriously can't tell the difference.  Especially not from your couch ten feet away!

Slinging with a SlingCatcher, a ProHD, a Pro, a Solo, an AV, and a Slingbox Classic. 3 Replay TV units, a Roku Photobridge and a Roku M2000 Soundbridge, an AppleTV, a Vudu, and digital cable. www.na9d.net

April 6, 2007 8:05 AM

I posted this in another thread and didn't really get the answer I needed.

So, I now have both HDMI and component cables hooked up (am told quality is no different - so what's the point?) Have unplugged the HDMI and am on the fence about picture quality.  But... when I try unhooking the HDMI, I lose sound on the TV.  My stereo (red/whiete cables) are hooked up directly to the TV. When I plug them into the component slots next to the red/green/blue components, I still get no sound. Anyone know what's  up?  All of this seems like an inordinant amount of monkeying around after over a year of SB with no problems with my old SA DVR box and ancient analog TV!   

April 6, 2007 9:15 AM

What answer do you need??  Jumping around from thread to thread with the same problem won't help you any..

You're saying when you have the TV on the component input but have the HDMI cable in you get sound, but when you unplug the HDMI cable you lose sound?  But you still have picture?

Are these cables coming through the slingbox?  Do you have sound on the slingbox?

If all this is correct it sounds like a setting on the TV.  If you have the TV on component input, you should get sound from its inputs, not the HDMI..

If you don't have sound on the slingbox through component it might be a setting on the cable box.

Slinging Tivo Series 2, Tivo HD, and TW cable from a Pro. Slinging Tivo HD from a Solo, Slinging Humax DRT800, and TW cable from a Classic to Sprint Mogul, AT&T SX66, N62, 8525, and Dell Inspiron 8600 with Sprint EVDO over Windstream DSL.

May 16, 2007 9:28 AM

Dave Zatz (Sling Media) said: We're aware of reports that some set-top boxes may disable analog outputs when using HDMI or may experience a handshake issue (HDCP?) with certain televisions. We've had several conversations and email exchanges this week (from the CEO and on down) to better understand the issue and determine what we can do to assist. Additionally, we have folks attempting to replicate these behaviors.

If you've experienced this or seen reports elsewhere, please drop me an email so I can help in pulling together data for the team. I'd like to know what sort of set-top boxes and televisions are in the mix and how things are connected. The more detail you provide, the more we'll be able to do with it.

Thanks!

 

Hi Dave,
  We had no problem with the slingbox until we got our HD tv and began using the HDMI cable (connected to the TV not the Slingbox).  Now when we get on the slingbox (sometimes) it says it doesn't support HDCP but it does work intermittently.  Sometimes we get no video but full audio and the error message for the display, however if you push the Guide button on the remote, you can see the video in the smaller screen.  Also, the pip works just fine.

We have:
Time Warner Cable
Scientific American 8300 HD Explorer DVR (connected to TV with HDMI and component, connected to sling box with s video and AV hookups)
Sony KDS 60A2020-HD TV

Like I said, the problem is intermittent.  It's not a problem right now so I can't tell you the exact error message.  Please let us know how to fix it, thanks.

Oh yeah, we are not using the HD connect sold by slingmedia. 

May 16, 2007 10:12 AM

So if you are not using the HD Connect - how are you connecting the Slingbox? S-Video?

Slinging with a SlingCatcher, a ProHD, a Pro, a Solo, an AV, and a Slingbox Classic. 3 Replay TV units, a Roku Photobridge and a Roku M2000 Soundbridge, an AppleTV, a Vudu, and digital cable. www.na9d.net

May 16, 2007 4:35 PM

 

Yes it's connected by s-video.  Like someone said in an earlier post, it seems to work correctly when the tv is on but we get the error when the tv is off.  I guess it's a DVR problem?

May 16, 2007 5:25 PM

Over S-Video you shouldn't get any error. S-Video doesn't carry HDCP information. Perhaps if HDMI is connected, you don't get ANY output from the cable box if the TV is off. Stupid. I hate DRM. Bottom line: use component video and not HDMI. The quality difference will be the same. You won't be able to tell the difference. And then you get around the issue of HDCP. Everything including your TV, cablebox and Slingbox will be happy. Save your TV's HDMI inputs for stuff like DVD players, etc.

Slinging with a SlingCatcher, a ProHD, a Pro, a Solo, an AV, and a Slingbox Classic. 3 Replay TV units, a Roku Photobridge and a Roku M2000 Soundbridge, an AppleTV, a Vudu, and digital cable. www.na9d.net

May 16, 2007 5:36 PM

I use HDMI to connect my TiVo Series3 to my TV (and no, switching to component is NOT an option) and component to my HD Connect, and once in a while I have 'unslingable' content because of HDCP. Since I'm generally only Slinging with the TV is off, but the HDMI is connected - and ALL outputs are live on the S3 - some content won't play. So far I've only made note of it on content from IFC.

-MegaZone, Sling Media Beta Manager
Slingbox Pro, HD Connect, TiVo Series3, TiVo Pioneer DVR-810H, SPM Treo 680, SP WinXP
(I also run GizmoLovers.com)

October 8, 2007 2:31 PM

Just purchased a Slingbox Pro and it works great. The only problem is that when a HDMI cable is connected to the back of my cable box it disables all the other output jacks. I have a Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8300 HD box with DVR. My cable company is Cablevision and my TV is a Samsung LN-S3296N. Has anyone else experienced this sort of issue and if so, is there a work around?

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