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So I haven't used my slingbox for a week or so now but when I tried to log on today I was told that someone by the name "VIVIAN-LU\VIVIAN LU" from IP address 67.183.50.52 was logged on (IP belongs to AT&T in Everett, Washington). I do not know this person the only way she would have gained access is if she managed to discover our Slingbox password. Only 2 people have this password in our family and we don't even know her, so is there any way she brute-forced into our Slingbox? I have already changed the passwords for safety, but what if this happens again?

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March 20, 2007 10:26 PM

Hijacking a Slingbox would be pretty hard to do.  You would have to find out what address it is at and also determine the password.

I guess someone could search addresses until they came across an open port 5001, then start a slingplayer and start guessing passwords. Would take some time and effort to do so.
Even if someone knew your FinderID, it still would take a bunch of trial and error.

Is there anyway that you loaded you player software on something else? I would be real interested in finding out if it ever happens again. In fact, are you using the 5001 port,  maybe a port change would be in order if you ever see it again.

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March 21, 2007 6:44 AM

Using strong passwords is the best way to keep from getting hacked.  I use passwordsafe for all my passwords these days.  Generate passwords at least 20+ characters/numbers/symbols/etc long to be of any decent difficulty to crack.

http://passwordsafe.sourceforge.net/

Also, as suggested, picking a different port number on your router that fowards to 5001 is a good idea too.  This way it is not on an obvious Slingbox default port number. 

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August 12, 2007 2:11 PM

Maybe you used your SlingPlayer on a computer/computer system that has someone stealing your password.  A malicous virus could cause this on your own computer by recording your keystrokes and then transmitting them to a hacker.  You mostly hear about this kind of scam in regards to Identity Theft and compromised financial accounts, but hey, they like to watch a good movie as much as the other guy.  Stupid as they can apparently be caught doing something inexpensive rather than saving their exposure for high financial payoffs. 

I would: a) report it to the Secret Service (they are the financial theft gurus) b) virus scan frequently, especially after using a computer while on the road  c) don't use a computer that you don't know who has access (i.e. hotel lobby) d) don't have your administrator's password the same as your user password, then don't use your administrator's password unless necessary (Better a user compromise than an administrator compromise and total hijack. Bummer when on the road and requires all that initial setup stuff at home.)

September 14, 2008 6:43 PM

I was thinking about this myself. I could run angry IP scanner and search a large range of IP's with port 5001 open. It's pretty easy to do that using the program "angry ip scanner" and setting the timeout down to 20ms.

Once I get a list of IP's then I will use brutus-ae to try a password crack first. If that fails then I will setup brutus-ae for a brute force crack. I can open up 10 sockets at a time which should make this go faster. With a password file, I'll try the standard set of passwords like password, sling, slingbox, boxsling, box, myslingbox... I'm sure you get the point.

Remember that strong passwords are a good idea for all password restricted items. I would recommend a minimum of 8 characters, upper/lower case, numbers, and special symbols. Try to make it unique. Don't try and be clever by using P@$$w0rd. These are the types of passwords that are cracked quickly. I would recommend a mnemonic like TTl*h1wWuR. That password is "Twinkle Twinkle little * how 1 wonder What u R". Another thing you can do is try keyboard patterns like QWASZX_)POLK,m. If you look at your keyboard, you will notice that I went from from top to bottom on the left and right sides of the keyboard. Remember, this is a challenge to some people. They are not trying to be malicious, they just want to see if they can do it. Don't write them down and never give your password to someone else.

This is just the right type of challenge that computer hackers like doing.

I hope this helps people understand the principles behind strong passwords and the need for them. Good Luck. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to shoot me an email at orfguy@gmail.com.

Enjoy!

September 14, 2008 9:02 PM

I agree a good password is the way to go. Going to all the trouble of scanning IP addresses, and cracking a password is a ton of work just to watch someone else's SB until they figure it out and change the password. This seems to be a lot of work to watch programs you don't normally get.

Someone may do it for fun, but there are easier ways to figure out someone's setup than doing all of that. :)

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September 14, 2008 11:33 PM

opq said: So I haven't used my slingbox for a week or so now but when I tried to log on today I was told that someone by the name "VIVIAN-LU\VIVIAN LU" from IP address 67.183.50.52 was logged on (IP belongs to AT&T in Everett, Washington). I do not know this person the only way she would have gained access is if she managed to discover our Slingbox password. Only 2 people have this password in our family and we don't even know her, so is there any way she brute-forced into our Slingbox? I have already changed the passwords for safety, but what if this happens again?
Do you have a wireless router at yout Slingbox location that the security might be open? Also, make sure you're doing all of the security updates if on XP or Vista and don't allow remote desktop via MSN Messenger, etc.

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