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slipkid

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reading all the problems on this board. Gotta be honest It would take some major convincing to presuade me to do so at this point.The complaints of the difficulty hooking it up to the picture quality to the darn thing even working. Look I'm not an IT guy but I just didnt turn on my 1st computer today either. Anyway:

1.) How good would the picture quality be on my PC remotley.2.) Can hook up this sb without much trouble and getbthis working remotley inside 1hr or is it going to take me and 3-4 hrs and talking with cutomer service/tech support all day long. Seemsd like there are pages and pages of challenges here to me.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

peace-

mark n san diego

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June 12, 2008 8:11 PM

Unfortunately, this is mainly a support community. People don't come here to tell when they don't have problems..

Some people have no issues and some have alot. There are alot of different variables, your ISP, what you're controlling, your computer, etc.

I recommend buying it somewhere you can return it if you're not happy with it.

And if you do buy one and don't have problems, let us know..

Slinging Tivo Series 2, Tivo HD, and TW cable from a Pro. Slinging Tivo HD from a Solo, Slinging Humax DRT800, and TW cable from a Classic to Sprint Mogul, AT&T SX66, N62, 8525, and Dell Inspiron 8600 with Sprint EVDO over Windstream DSL.

June 12, 2008 9:21 PM updated: June 12, 2008 9:23 PM

Great to hear you're thinking of joining the legion of Slingers out there.

Your question is great, but everyone's experience is little different since everyone has different equipment, internet connections, and routers.

I've written a lot of articles about the Slingbox, reviews, etc. I'd definitely go check them out. Browse the articles section for more: http://www.slingcommunity.com/category/browse

To directly answer your questions:

1. It's hard to tell you what the image quality will be like, particularly when it comes to remote viewing. Streaming remotely, it's not like looking out a window, but I've found my remote experience is typically watchable in almost all cases (and very good most of the time). If you're at a busy hotspot, or have a low-speed internet connection, it's not always great.

2. Personally, I've always found the setup experience to be quite simple, but everyone has different skill levels, routers, and gadget experience. My router is easy to configure, and Slingbox has always had remote codes for the devices I'd like to Sling. Some people have troubles, but most of the headache is contributed to non-standard networking in the home (2 routers, etc), difficult to configure routers, firewall troubles at remote locations, a poor ISP, and missing remote codes for off brand or brand new gear.

ryandh is correct by saying that people who have great experiences come to forums less than folks who have problems. Nature of the beast I suppose.

Either way, I honestly love my Slingbox and would never want to go back to not having one. If you take the plunge and have questions, SlingCommunity is here to help you. And if you don't, definitely come back here and share that with everyone who may also be on the fence.

Mind Over Matt'er - Technology musings, opinion, and more straight from TechLore's head geek.

June 13, 2008 7:35 AM

I am one of those who has had very good experiences with the SB.  I have two original SBs in two different locations.  I have used two different routers with no trouble (Linksys WRT54G and Dlink 655).

 As for remote viewing, I find that the uplaod speed at the SBs location has a huge impact.  When I only got ~400Kbs the quality was marginal, especially for sports.  When I got upgraded to ~700Kbs the picure was quite watchable, even on a big screen TV.  Now that both locations get >950Kbs reliably, the picture is very good on my 17" laptop, and still darn good on my 50" TV (no worse than some of the over-the-air reception I remember as a child).  Of course, if there is heavy network congestion somewhere between you and the SB, the experience will degrade.  But, I have found this to be reasonable rare, even in the evenings.

Unfortunately, like many things, you won't know how good your experience will be until you try it.  As was mentioned previously, buy it from somewhere that will allow you to return it if it does not work for you.  Too bad that Costco doesn't carry the SB.  Their return policy is exceptional.

June 13, 2008 8:58 AM updated: June 13, 2008 1:07 PM

arichter5 said: I am one of those who has had very good experiences with the SB. I have two original SBs in two different locations. I have used two different routers with no trouble (Linksys WRT54G and Dlink 655). As for remote viewing, I find that the uplaod speed at the SBs location has a huge impact. When I only got ~400Kbs the quality was marginal, especially for sports. When I got upgraded to ~700Kbs the picure was quite watchable, even on a big screen TV. Now that both locations get >950Kbs reliably, the picture is very good on my 17" laptop, and still darn good on my 50" TV (no worse than some of the over-the-air reception I remember as a child). Of course, if there is heavy network congestion somewhere between you and the SB, the experience will degrade. But, I have found this to be reasonable rare, even in the evenings. Unfortunately, like many things, you won't know how good your experience will be until you try it. As was mentioned previously, buy it from somewhere that will allow you to return it if it does not work for you. Too bad that Costco doesn't carry the SB. Their return policy is exceptional.

thanks for bring so helpful. I'm wondering what a typical cable modem speed would facilitate in comparison to your examples(400/950) Now will what the I-net connection at the remote area is be a factor as well? Best Buy has them and they have a good return policy. I'm going to take the plunge today I think.-

Thanks-Mark

June 13, 2008 9:18 AM updated: June 13, 2008 1:07 PM

Matt Whitlock said: Great to hear you're thinking of joining the legion of Slingers out there. Your question is great, but everyone's experience is little different since everyone has different equipment, internet connections, and routers. I've written a lot of articles about the Slingbox, reviews, etc. I'd definitely go check them out. Browse the articles section for more: http://www.slingcommunity.com/category/browse To directly answer your questions: 1. It's hard to tell you what the image quality will be like, particularly when it comes to remote viewing. Streaming remotely, it's not like looking out a window, but I've found my remote experience is typically watchable in almost all cases (and very good most of the time). If you're at a busy hotspot, or have a low-speed internet connection, it's not always great. 2. Personally, I've always found the setup experience to be quite simple, but everyone has different skill levels, routers, and gadget experience. My router is easy to configure, and Slingbox has always had remote codes for the devices I'd like to Sling. Some people have troubles, but most of the headache is contributed to non-standard networking in the home (2 routers, etc), difficult to configure routers, firewall troubles at remote locations, a poor ISP, and missing remote codes for off brand or brand new gear. ryandh is correct by saying that people who have great experiences come to forums less than folks who have problems. Nature of the beast I suppose. Either way, I honestly love my Slingbox and would never want to go back to not having one. If you take the plunge and have questions, SlingCommunity is here to help you. And if you don't, definitely come back here and share that with everyone who may also be on the fence.

I have an older linksys 4 port router.However I have no idea how to "view the router" from my computer. Anyway-I was wondering what is an ideal router to have.Also, I have wondered at this point to get access to my basic cable if:At this point I have a splitter going to the tv/hddvr and the modem. I need to be able to have them watch waht they want from home and watch something different remotley.So the thought was to put a splitter prior to the tv/dvr and run it to the sling box?? You comments were and are most appreciated.

Thanks-Mark

June 13, 2008 7:26 PM

BTW my bandwidth is 1078.8 kbps at work.Does that make a difference?
Thanks-
Mark

June 15, 2008 11:44 AM

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June 18, 2008 7:51 PM

The SlingStream quality will be determined by the LESSER of your home uplink speed and the viewing location downlink speed. Weakest link in the chain and all.

As for the splitter. You have basic cable with no cable box at all? If so, then you could use a Slingbox with a built-in tuner connected directly to cable. The, now discontinued but still available, Slingbox Tuner has just an analog tuner. The Slingbox PRO, which is a current model, has a built-in analog tuner which will handle basic cable AND A/V inputs for other devices. I'd recommend the PRO because you have some safety - if your cable company drops analog channels and moves them to the digital tier (as many are doing), or you just decide to get digital service for more content, you can connect a cable box to the PRO - but not the Tuner model.

A box like the Slingbox AV or Slingbox SOLO accepts AV input but does NOT have a tuner, so you could go that route but you'd need to split the cable and get a cable box (or something else with a tuner the SB can control) to feed the signal into the SB.

-MegaZone, Sling Media Beta Manager
Slingbox Pro, HD Connect, TiVo Series3, TiVo Pioneer DVR-810H, SPM Treo 680, SP WinXP
(I also run GizmoLovers.com)

June 18, 2008 8:35 PM updated: June 18, 2008 8:36 PM

MegaZone said: The SlingStream quality will be determined by the LESSER of your home uplink speed and the viewing location downlink speed. Weakest link in the chain and all. As for the splitter. You have basic cable with no cable box at all? If so, then you could use a Slingbox with a built-in tuner connected directly to cable. The, now discontinued but still available, Slingbox Tuner has just an analog tuner. The Slingbox PRO, which is a current model, has a built-in analog tuner which will handle basic cable AND A/V inputs for other devices. I'd recommend the PRO because you have some safety - if your cable company drops analog channels and moves them to the digital tier (as many are doing), or you just decide to get digital service for more content, you can connect a cable box to the PRO - but not the Tuner model. A box like the Slingbox AV or Slingbox SOLO accepts AV input but does NOT have a tuner, so you could go that route but you'd need to split the cable and get a cable box (or something else with a tuner the SB can control) to feed the signal into the SB.

Thanks-

 So if the uplink speed is better than the DL speed you get a better picture?

Also I was going direct from the incoming cable split to the SB and the cable box because I want the people at the house to be able to watch something different.

 In your opinion...Do you think that I can hook this up by myself without much of a problem. The only thing that seems to throw me off is the router UpUp or whatever the heck that is for the port you use??

Hey thanks again for taking the time!

mark

June 18, 2008 10:02 PM updated: June 18, 2008 10:03 PM

slipkid said:
Thanks-  So if the uplink speed is better than the DL speed you get a better picture?

Actually, that is not quite right - the quality will be determined by the slower of the two locations.  Normally, the upload speed is less than the download speed - and it will be the determining factor, but that is not always the case. 

I think someone suggested buying your SlingBox from a store that allows returns and then give it a try.  Then if does not work as you want or need, you can return the SlingBox.

Floyd

June 19, 2008 12:37 AM

I didn't read all the replies, but lets put it this way:
The Slingbox is THE BEST INVENTION OF ALL TIME, PERIOD! There is no way to describe how cool it is that I can watch DirecTv on my Palm Treo anywhere in the WORLD!! I never miss a game anymore!!

You read about people with problems only because the majority of people without problems aren't going to post a message to say that everything is fine. Think about it. The only people that will post are people with issues. Most of the issues are not Sling's fault either, they are often user related.

June 19, 2008 1:34 AM

slipkid said: Thanks-  So if the uplink speed is better than the DL speed you get a better picture? Also I was going direct from the incoming cable split to the SB and the cable box because I want the people at the house to be able to watch something different.  In your opinion...Do you think that I can hook this up by myself without much of a problem. The only thing that seems to throw me off is the router UpUp or whatever the heck that is for the port you use?? Hey thanks again for taking the time! mark

As was said, no on the speeds.  It is the slower of the two that is the maximum for the connection.  If the uplink is slower than the downlink, then the uplink is the limiting factor.  If the downlink is slower than the uplink, then the downlink is the limiting factor.

You can to the split, but the tuner in the SB will only tune analog channels.  You could also get a second cable box and dedicate it to the SB.  Basically if you want to be able to watch one thing via Slingbox and something else locally you need two tuners, however that may be configured.  One for the local folks, and one of the Slingbox.

I think most people can handle the setup.  The SlingPlayer software does try to configure things for you during the Slingbox initial setup, which works for some routers.  And it has instructions for many others on how to do it manually.  And if it comes to it our support people can assist with setup.

-MegaZone, Sling Media Beta Manager
Slingbox Pro, HD Connect, TiVo Series3, TiVo Pioneer DVR-810H, SPM Treo 680, SP WinXP
(I also run GizmoLovers.com)

June 19, 2008 8:36 AM

Thanks MegaZ.I dont know how I'm going to convince Time Warner to give me a second box.

June 23, 2008 3:35 PM

Personally, I'd stay away from cable connection like the slingbox tuner.

Having the slingbox attached a set top box will yield better quality (I have 2 sling boxes attached through a cable box and my cousin in law has it attached through coaxil).

It'll also make your life a hell of alot easier to have the 'guide' menu with set top boxes. Makes changing channels and channel surfing much much easier.

July 1, 2008 1:51 AM

Hi slipkid, getting a second (or more) cable box is pretty much as simple as calling them up and asking for one. They'll add additional charges to your monthly bill for the rental of it, of course, so you're not going to get a free lunch out of this.

As for how easy the slingbox is, my personal experience is that if you actually read and pay attention to the instructions as you perform the setup process and you don't attempt to short cut or try to out think the configuration software, it's extremely easy to get things working. If you are too smart for you own good like me, you'll waste a lot of time wondering what went wrong when it's really just the person doing the configuration. I think it's possible to complete the setup in 1 hour or possibly less, but I'd set aside 2 hours just in case.

Overall, I felt that the slingbox configuration software is actually quite well thought out, clear, and if I just stopped to pay attention and follow the instructions, I would have saved myself a ton of headaches.

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