Dave Zatz said: Just read MZ's post. Bummer. I was hopeful these guys were at least speaking. Oh well, I'll get the Pre and watch MobiTV which is included in the $99 all-you-can-eat package, anyway.

I think you read too much into my post.  I said nothing about whether Sling and Palm are talking, and I will neither confirm nor deny such conversations.  My comments relate only to our current public position, we have not announced any plans at this time and have nothing to discuss in public.

-MegaZone, GizmoLovers.com
Slingbox PRO-HD w/TiVo Series3, Slingbox SOLO w/TiVo Pioneer DVR-810H, SPM Treo 680, SP WinXP
(Former Sling Media Beta Program Manager.)

That's an option - but we'd probably have to find a way to pay for it since there would be a *huge* bandwidth bill for all of the traffic relayed through the servers. We'd need a large server farm to take the Slingbox video and reformat it into some standard format. Actually formats since there is no one universal format that works on all phones, H.364 is the closest but not all phones handle it. Which would also mean increased latency in any control input. A lot of work, and not as nice an end result.

-MegaZone, GizmoLovers.com
Slingbox PRO-HD w/TiVo Series3, Slingbox SOLO w/TiVo Pioneer DVR-810H, SPM Treo 680, SP WinXP
(Former Sling Media Beta Program Manager.)

Actually, I have wondered why Sling hasn't done flv encoding with the slingboxes. At the very least flv encoding is less intensive than x264(afaik) so at least the Pro-HD and future slingboxes could have supported encoding it based on raw power. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the older ones could at least at certain resolutions. Obviously, it would have required a major coding project. However, then any flash enabled browser could have worked out of the box. SLing wouldn't need to deal with different plugins for Firefox, IE, Safari, Windows, OSX. Even Linux would be supported by that. You would also effectively have Windows Mobile and Symbian Support via Skyfire(although I would understand your not wanting to be defendant on a startup).

Of course, none of this would help the pre as far as we know. As far as we know, the pre doesn't have flash support though it wouldn't surprise me to see it.

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I'm a little confused. So the Slingplayer for Palm OS, which is available on the website, wouldn't work with the Pre? Or are you guys wanting a higher resolution player? I was going to upgrade to the Pre but not if slingplayer isn't available (any resolution). Since the iphone player isn't available yet, I guess it would be at least a year or two for the Pre.

Well, here's a thought. How about running the SlingPlayer Mobile (for PalmOS) on the Palm Pre by using an emulator? See the following demo of the MotionApps (http://www.motionapps.com/classic/) software: http://bit.ly/Q3qMt

Sling Media, is there a technical reason this won't work as a bridge until you develop a WebOS version of the mobile player? Also, any chance you'd ofer any consideration to those of us who'd like to switch to the Pre but aren't thrilled by the prospect of re-buying the Sling software 1-2 additional times?

Thanks.

Not one person has a Palm Pre yet and they want a SlingPlayer app for it. Wow! I'm sure Android devices will get it before WebOS devices.

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>>Not one person has a Palm Pre yet and they want a SlingPlayer app for it. Wow! I'm sure Android devices will get it before WebOS devices.<<

Pre has a core of Treo users that are existing customers of Sling, that will likely move between platforms. Android interface has a greater challenge to sell the concept, then the product. Churning the earlier-adopters that Palm brings, kills the powerful referal process that truely fuels growth.

Streaming content is explosive growth stuff. If Sling takes a wait and see approach, especially with the existing Palm users, they run the risk of becoming irrelevant. Other technologies and makers will gladly step into the void as Pre users look for s substitute. The track record for Palm Garnet demands a WebOS player. Garnet was so well executed and enduring, even in a time when this was flaky high-tech future gadget stuff, that WebOS probably be the OS of choice soon.

printergirl said:

SlingTreo said:

irm_02446 said: Well, here's a thought. How about running the SlingPlayer Mobile (for PalmOS) on the Palm Pre by using an emulator? See the following demo of the MotionApps (http://www.motionapps.com/classic/) software: http://bit.ly/Q3qMt Sling Media, is there a technical reason this won't work as a bridge until you develop a WebOS version of the mobile player? Also, any chance you'd ofer any consideration to those of us who'd like to switch to the Pre but aren't thrilled by the prospect of re-buying the Sling software 1-2 additional times? Thanks.

I'll second that!

I was wondering the same thing? It seems to run .prc files well. Why wouldn't it work for Sling?

It will all depend on how Classic connects to existing resources on the Palm Pre.  From what I have been reading elsewhere, Classic will not connect to the Bluetooth Stack or Radio of the Pre.  It may connect to the Network of the Pre, so we shall see.  Release date is 2 weeks away.....

Here is some more detail on what is and isn't supported.....

http://motionapps.blogspot.com/2009/04/classic-faq.html

Good news possibly.
Slingpayer to be available on palm pre at or near launch


http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187799

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/05/22/slingplayer-coming-to-pre-at-or-near...