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October 22, 2009 01:29 PM

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chrisorsi

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Hey all any help would be great.  I'm new to this, and just got my Slingbox and catcher set up.  Here's the deal.  I live in Japan and have a Slingbox set up back in the States.  The catcher is here, hardwired into my wireless router(Belkin N series, don't have model number at the moment), which plugs into the modem. 

When I try to access the catcher on my TV, I get the "Cannot connect due to a Network Error" message.  However, I can watch the Slingbox with Slingplayer on all 3 computers in my house, so I don't think it is a port issue. 

I tried all the suggestions I could find here(resetting the catcher and opening port 5001), but it's still a no go.  I checked on the updates and it is good to go, no updates available.  So whats next?  Any suggestions would be awesome.  Thanks!!

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October 22, 2009 2:03 PM

Try creating a new sling account (go to slingaccounts.com). That worked for me a while back. For some reason the sling database can upset your sling account so it will not work on the catcher. Unfortunately the 'network error' can mean so many things, but as you can access your slingbox remotely, sounds like it's a catcher only issue.

BTW: Have you tried testing your internet cable to the slingcatcher (plug it into a laptop) to check that just in case?

SlingBox Classic (in UK - connected to Virgin V+ DVR) => SlingCatcher (US)

October 22, 2009 5:31 PM updated: October 22, 2009 5:36 PM

chrisorsi said: Hey all any help would be great.  I'm new to this, and just got my Slingbox and catcher set up.  Here's the deal.  I live in Japan and have a Slingbox set up back in the States.  The catcher is here, hardwired into my wireless router(Belkin N series, don't have model number at the moment), which plugs into the modem.  When I try to access the catcher on my TV, I get the "Cannot connect due to a Network Error" message.  However, I can watch the Slingbox with Slingplayer on all 3 computers in my house, so I don't think it is a port issue.  I tried all the suggestions I could find here(resetting the catcher and opening port 5001), but it's still a no go.  I checked on the updates and it is good to go, no updates available.  So whats next?  Any suggestions would be awesome.  Thanks!!

So, you've portforwarded your slingbox and router back in the states and you still can't connect using the slingcatcher? When you are streaming something from the slingplayer software on the computer, and press alt.shift.i, what comes up under stream type info?  If it's a Snatt stream, then it's a port forwarding issue on the slingbox side. The catcher doesn't do SNATT. The slingcatcher needs to be running a TCP stream to work with the slingbox.

October 23, 2009 5:11 AM

Stream Type is Relay. How do I change it?

October 23, 2009 2:00 PM updated: October 23, 2009 3:23 PM

As has been pointed out to me, a relay stream is just borrowing server time from Amazon when the slingmedia servers are full. Brandon, the moderator, pointed the following out to me.

"From what I have gleamed they are using SNATT when Sling Media is using their servers and NAT to sling and when they get overloaded they are using Amazon's AWS service as a RELAY to do it"

If you check your streaming again periodically, you'll probably see another stream type come up.

If you find out that you are getting a SNATT stream, and have verified that you have tried everything, ( I see some are port forwarding using 443 rather than 5001 ), have gone to the port forward web site

http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm

seen if your router is on there to make sure you haven't missed a step, and after all that you still can't get the slingcatcher to connect, then hopefully someone more knowledgeable can provide you with a clearer answer, because I'm out of ideas other than to think its a specific router problem that has issues with port forwarding. If it turns out that you are getting a SNATT stream, you have joined a very exclusive club of people asking why the slingcatcher can't do SNATT when the slingplayer software can, and why can't they just update the firmware on the catcher and find a way to make SNATT work so we don't have to screw around with all these port forwarding issues with the same protocol that works with the slingplayer software and connects to the slingbox 100% of the time. My slingbox was setup with automatic UPNP and I didn't use manual port forwarding, so I've got a slingcatcher network connection issue as well, but my slingcatcher still works every three days or so, but then I have to reset the modem / router / slingbox and then it works again for another three days. (It's a DHCP time lease issue). I'm too far away to fix this issue at this point, so I just live with it. I've learned enough that the slingcatcher works perfectly when it works, but if you've got any network connection issues, due to incorrect port forwarding, you'll encounter the connection network error you have, but I don't know how to further help you when I can't even help myself until I get to my router / slingbox at this point to fix the settings. I'm praying that sling see that manual port forwarding is a headache for a lot of people and eventually they find a way to make the slingcatcher work off the same principle as the slingplayer software or they release another slingcatcher down the road that can handle the backup SNATT stream and bypass these portforwarding issues.

November 2, 2009 7:52 PM

Hey, Hello from Tokyo. Same story as you. I just moved my sling box to a new city in the US and have the same catcher problem you have? My computers work find but the catcher shows a network error. I have not tryied any of the advise in the responses yet but I thought I would ask you if and how you fixed your problem. Any thing new to add? ddsjfaber@hotmail.com

November 2, 2009 11:57 PM updated: November 2, 2009 11:58 PM

Hi DWFaber,

I wish there was something new to add to help you, but I won't be at my router / slingbox until the summer of next year to try to correct the situation. Slingbox released a firmware / software upgrade recently. I was hoping that the slingcatcher was next on the list of priorities. They've addressed remote issues with the latest slingplayer / firmware upgrade. I'm hoping they focus on the slingcatcher and read this forum now and then to provide some sort of ability to use SNATT to get around the network connection issue and make the slingcatcher as easy to connect to the slingbox as it is with the slingplayer software. I don't know if that's even possible, but it sure as hell would solve a lot of network connection problems like yours and mine.

The thing is I've heard people using port forwarding and still not being able to connect to the slingcatcher. Whether they had setup the slingbox incorrectly or it's something to do with a specific router issue, I don't know. Not connecting to the slingcatcher is the only thing stopping me from enjoying it, because when it works, it's perfect. I've still got a three day window of use out of it before the hardware has to be reset, but I'm still no further in understanding why it works in short bursts and then can't connect.


This obviously doesn't help you any. All I can say is try any advice that's on this forum before throwing in the towel. Start from scratch, port forward, get a successful remote connection from the slingbox, and even try dropping the hardware firewall on both the router / slingbox side and the slingcatcher side.

As for the slingcatcher, I'm just praying that sling figures out a way to provide a future slingcatcher firmware upgrade that makes it possible to work with SNATT and solves this issue once and for all.

November 3, 2009 9:20 PM

Hey guys sorry its been busy here. The relay type is SNATT, and if I am reading this right I'm pretty much screwed because there is no way to change it, correct? It's just something with Japans internet structure and I cant fix it?
Thanks for all the help so far.

November 4, 2009 4:08 AM updated: November 4, 2009 7:02 AM

Hi all, chrisorsi's wife here. We got it fixed today. I'm not entirely sure how, but here's what lead up to it:

Back in the states our Slingbox is hooked up to a Motorola DVR cable box on Cox Cable. The remote that showed on the screen with our SlingPlayer (silver Motorola, if any of you have the same) was completely functional except for the "A" button, which was problematic because it is needed for custom DVR settings and deleting old recordings. Since we had all but given up on the Slingcatcher I focused on finding a solution to the remote.

I googled and found this thread: http://www.slingcommunity.com/forum/thread/25373/FIOS-Motorola-Remote/

I took a shot in the dark and followed JimH's suggestion (March 29, 2008 11:00PM) and added in changes of my own.

Our device brand was set as Motorola, so I changed it to the cable company (Cox). Our "connected to" device was listed as a Cable Box, I changed it to DVR. Finally when it asked for the model, I just chose the one with "Black Remote" next to it since the black remote is what had been discussed in the thread I found.

After finishing everything out I tried out the new settings first on our SlingPlayer, the "A" button on the new on-screen remote worked! For kicks, I fired up the SlingCatcher again because (stupid reason, I know) our remote seemed to match the remote of a friend who had tried our Catcher out with his Slingbox, and had it work. Well, low and behold our SlingCatcher connected to our box right away, and all is well now.

Thank you for all the help offered. Like I said, I have no idea why this worked for us, or what it had to do with our network, but maybe it will help someone else!

November 4, 2009 2:06 PM

I'm glad you've gotten it to work, but I'm skeptical on why changing the remote brand made the slingcatcher work, because to be honest, it shouldn't have anything to do with that, but who cares, as long as it works.

Could you do something for me while watching the slingbox through the slingplayer rather than through the slingcatcher. When watching a stream on the slingplayer software, could you press alt.shift.i on the keyboard and take a look at the info stream. Is it now TCP, or is it still SNATT or RELAY? Also, after using the slingcatcher connecting to the slingbox for a week, could you report back and tell us if you've had any connecting problems to it? Bottom line is if you look at the stream and it's TCP, then you've fixed your problem and the port forwarding that was done originally, is now doing its job. If it's still SNATT, as it is with mine, I'm wondering if at some point you won't be able to connect to the slingbox from the slingcatcher, even if you can connect now.

Either way, you've got it working which is great, but if you do have a chance, can you provide that info to the forum as it could explain why you've got it working now.

Thanks and congratulations on getting it to work.

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